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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:21 pm 
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It's the vibe


It's the vibe.

I tend to agree with rhino, if that's the vibe from the AFL :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
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Poster on BF says Charlie likely to sign a new contract before the end of the year. Harry's negotiations may go into next year but confident both will stay long term.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 9:25 pm 
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So it sounds like we’re going to get reamed again.


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 Post subject: List Management 2022
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Sholl? Do we really need another sheep dog?


It's just a rumour and if he comes it will be cheap. Belief is he is an elite ball user


FWIW, I’ve heard a similar rumour

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
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AIRCAV wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Sholl? Do we really need another sheep dog?


It's just a rumour and if he comes it will be cheap. Belief is he is an elite ball user


FWIW, I’ve heard a similar rumour


O'briens an elite ball user? You also need to be able to get the ball in the first place under any circumstances and then use it elitely under any circumstances


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:12 am 
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AIRCAV wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Sholl? Do we really need another sheep dog?


It's just a rumour and if he comes it will be cheap. Belief is he is an elite ball user


FWIW, I’ve heard a similar rumour


Rumour that he is coming?

Or rumour he will come cheap? (I can't see any way he would not be cheap)

Maybe rumour he is an elite ball user (we all know he is a good kick, just watch the games!)

But he is also in and out of a lowly side and has been on the stage for a few years now

I see this is a desperate and stupid move if this is true

With respect we already have LOB


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:04 pm 
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late picks ,rookie picks ask tigers how important to get that selection correct.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:45 pm 
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Carlton eligible for compensation on Liam Jones
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By Jake Niall
July 29, 2022 — 7.02pm

Carlton will be eligible for draft compensation for Liam Jones, with the AFL ruling that the key defender will be classified as a free agent at the end of this season.

Sources with knowledge of the move have confirmed that Jones, who quit the Blues and AFL football before this season because of an unwillingness to be vaccinated, is expected to join the Western Bulldogs, his old team, on a three-year deal.

Depending on the size of the contract, Carlton would therefore be entitled to draft compensation for losing a free agent. The Dogs are set to give him three years to accommodate his wage under the salary cap, spreading the money out over three seasons rather than two.

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 Post subject: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:53 pm 
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Fair enough. Take the 3rd rounder and don't look back!

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:06 pm 
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Good news I reckon


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:21 pm 
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The last couple of lines......brace yourselves fellow baggers.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:59 am 
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So we lose Jones who probably only had 2 or 3 decent years left and who was a bit of a turnover merchant and in exchange pick up a kid late in the draft who is a 5% chance of playing 100 games

Move on guys

I was over Jones the day I heard he was anti vax


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 Post subject: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:17 am 
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Carlton will not receive high draft compensation for Jones because the AFL system for free agency is based on the size of the contract the player accepts and his age. At 31, Jones is worth much less than he would be if he was 26 or 27.

There is even a chance they will receive no compensation, as happened when Jarrad Waite left the club to join North Melbourne.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:44 am 
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A second rounder for Jones would be great.

Gives us 12, 30, 31, 62, 66

We can bring in some good talent to build up our list


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 Post subject: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 9:51 am 
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How are we getting a 2nd rounder?

A first rounder would be even better. But we're not getting either.

A 3rd rounder and a 'don't say we never give you anything' pat on the head is the go

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:25 pm 
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Don’t think we will get a second rounder

Take third rounder and run we all remember Waite and how we were aap Reutered

Well done to the club for working on this and secondly recruiting young who is 10 years younger than Jones after he effectively walked out this is what a good professional well won club does


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:33 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
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Carlton will not receive high draft compensation for Jones because the AFL system for free agency is based on the size of the contract the player accepts and his age. At 31, Jones is worth much less than he would be if he was 26 or 27.

There is even a chance they will receive no compensation, as happened when Jarrad Waite left the club to join North Melbourne.



We will probably get the Jarrad Waite deal

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 1:06 pm 
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hope our recruiters nail the compensation pick like syd ,hawks and tigers.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:47 pm 
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jpulice1969 wrote:
hope our recruiters nail the compensation pick like syd ,hawks and tigers.


I hope we pick well as it can make a massive difference especially to a list that should be top 4 next year.


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 Post subject: List Management 2022
PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:29 pm 
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That's right, the lean years where we had zero 22-28 year olds on our list must be fresh in everyone's mind. That age profile is serving us really well this year and is fundamental to growth, so smart drafting now needs to be our production line for the future.

Bringing a pick 30 or 40 into a strong list and culture is not something we've been able to do for 20+ years.

Do this right and we can win, develop, and have sustained success.

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