In 2012 carlton had a superior list to Port and were financially more secure than Port, also had more members and sponsors, and played in more block busters...better facilities etc

what has happened in 18 months mozzie?

(apart from losing thornton, I really cant see any excuses)

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i dont know what act you two are trying to put on or what you are trying to achieve?

your antics are a shame because you both seem intelligent enough and have a lot to offer...... you just seem to want to offer it, over and over and over and over and over and over again, in the most annoying belligerent manner possible.

its bad enough the club has been dragged to its knees by the oligarchs but now, in an almost ironic way, you seem to want to drag this forum down to death also.

i've held back and i've defended you both in discussions, i often agree with what you have to say, i reckon i would enjoy a rum with you in real life but @#$%&! me if enough isnt enough.

tone it down FFS, you dont need to beat every single person over the head, you dont need to repeat yourselves ad nauseum in every @#$%&! thread.

your opinions are valued here, but with the way things are going, im not sure for how much longer or by how many people.

i dont think a bit of humility and some civil behaviour is too much to ask? or is it?

this place isnt your own personal pissing toy.

the choice is yours - ease up or i can see the choice being made for you.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

take it easy grr - mozzie and doc are good guys - why take out your angst on them at 1:30 in the morning?

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its 11:30 pm here

and it may sound full of angst but there is no angst - just telling it like it is

i've defended you both enough, the ball is now in your court

surprisingly enough not many find you as cute, funny and entertaining as you think you are

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

both?

I dont recall working in a partnership.

what on earth are you talking about>?

the Society takes its daily business very seriously indeed

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I disagree. Members have a duty to support the club, and the president when he (or she) and the board are taking the club in the right direction, but more than that we have an even more important duty to question the president and board when they are taking the club down the path to mediocrity and making them justify their vision and the path they're taking the club on.

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ok so were still blaming elliott.. and somehow that seems to mean punchandjudy puppet doesnt need to give us his vision we just need to follow??

one of the things mark will need to do is create an environment of positivity... it shouldnt have to come from us just blindly following whtever happend at board level


hes going to need to create it.

in my opinion... this club is going nowhere onfield for a minimum of five years... so in the meantime how will mark make sure people jump on board? its just not going to happen because the footy results will be a resounding success .

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Im certain some posters on here work on the premise if you repeat bullshit often enough it becomes truth
Some do it so often I think they start to believe their own bullshit

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yeah but i dont believe you syd...

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i want clarification here:

is this comment directed at me?

if so i reject it because my comment that i assume instigated your response was made in good faith for the good of the club. the rise since elliott has been a false dawn.....

Synbad and Cretylus

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i dunno why its directed at me...
i want to see a vision..... OR thinks i dont have a right to expect anything but i should support the new president

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Synners you have been banging on for months now how Ratts left Malthouse a crap list and recruited HBf s
Tell me how he was going to recruit gun midfeilders and KPP and leave them for Mick when 4 out of the 5 drafts were comprimised by GWS and GC
Mick was brought in to get the best out of the list
He hasnt they have gone backwards .you cant blames Ratts for that

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Mick has traded for KP Players (Everitt) and not HB flankers .... Don't be harsh SB.

I am going to give MLG a go and also get right behind the captain. Full support.

Might even try and give Strangelove a fair go from here..

Tired of all the moaning. As if that is going to get us anywhere. The way I see it is the moaning started when we got our first wooden spoon and hasn't stopped.
In that time we have been crap. Moaning fans = CFC failure. Players, admin and coaches are spooked whenever a decision has to be made.
Tough club to be at. No support.

Well he does have a lot of shit to clean up if he is willing.

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We are on our way back...

actually, i always said ratts couldnt coach and i was right .. but if you remember correctly i did also say our list management under him is catastrophic...

think back abit,,,

im sure you can cast your mind back ......

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Hang on, let me get this right....complaining fans are the cause of on and off-field mediocrity at the club?

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But you have to cut him some slack as the drafts were comprimised
I havent seen MM bring in anything in the last 2 years that we set the world on fire
Ratts delt with 4 drafts where GWS and GC picked all the cream

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