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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:34 pm 
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Ok question to Michael Jezz.
The board room has 2 Pratt board members plus the portrait of Dick...
Why do we have 2 board directors from one family.. and why is the ONLY portrait of any president present in the room a portrait of Richard Pratt???

Thats not kind of weird to you??? :screwy: :screwy:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:43 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
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You can be successful if you have the best ground - MCG of course. To deny the existence of home ground advantage is denying history. Real supporters understand Etihad is killing our Club
Point 1 and 2 - we are the worst at. To deny otherwise, you are denying history
Point 3 - you havent addressed the advantage that Sydney and Geelong have playing on home soil - to deny the existence of home ground advantage is denying history
Point 4 - 20 directors I recall was a historical fact before Elliott I recall.


What advantage do the cats and the swans have when they play in Grad Finals?

You would think, that Collingwood has the best draw and home ground advantage in the league. It plays 16, sometimes 18 games at the MCG and yet its record in Grand Finals is poor with only 2 flags from about 15 attempts in 55 years.

Good teams, that led well on and off the field, win anywhere.

Look at our performances at ETIHAD - one the worst records in the league and its one of home grounds. We often lose to interstate teams there as well...

The fortress is not in he surface or surrounding stands, nor is it in the crowd. It lays within the team, the players that enter the arena.

Get that right and it really doesn't matter where we play


Getting to the Grand Final might help first

Geelong 8 home games - 8 wins :screwy:



As I recall I think we only won one of those 16 Grand Finals at Princes Park. :wink:


Look if you want to play 8 home games in front of 35,000, at Princes Park on a Saturday afternoon, with no television audience to speak of, then you have my full support.

It just seems like the right thing to do, I guess it's the vibe.


this is the same spin that comes from the current board...


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:43 pm 
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You and surrey......


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:48 pm 
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Mozzie.. not sure what youre actually saying.. are you saying we should renovate the ground and play in front of 28,000 people???... is that your blue print into the future for our club.
i actually kind of agree... it wont be long till were as big as 29,000 and we can have a lock out

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:26 pm 
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cretin do you think EPL teams have a home ground 'advantage'???

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cretin do you think EPL teams have a home ground 'advantage'???


if thats not the most ridiculous comment i have read in here... its very fkn close.

but ill let the cretin answer that... :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:01 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Ok question to Michael Jezz.
The board room has 2 Pratt board members plus the portrait of Dick...
Why do we have 2 board directors from one family.. and why is the ONLY portrait of any president present in the room a portrait of Richard Pratt???

Thats not kind of weird to you??? :screwy: :screwy:


I don't like portraits of anyone but it's a red herring issue. Who cares, take it down. They should have as many seats as voted by the members. What's weird to me is your carping negativity when you can see 3 alternative presidents pushed for by sticks. Fahour is your manand the coach you support. You have this grudge against the pratt's and Matheson, yet never acknowledge anything positive just bash on and scapegoat a target as if they are fully responsible. Has your dark mind any capacity to see the change on the horizon


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:19 am 
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Michael Jezz wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ok question to Michael Jezz.
The board room has 2 Pratt board members plus the portrait of Dick...
Why do we have 2 board directors from one family.. and why is the ONLY portrait of any president present in the room a portrait of Richard Pratt???

Thats not kind of weird to you??? :screwy: :screwy:


I don't like portraits of anyone but it's a red herring issue. Who cares, take it down. They should have as many seats as voted by the members. What's weird to me is your carping negativity when you can see 3 alternative presidents pushed for by sticks. Fahour is your manand the coach you support. You have this grudge against the pratt's and Matheson, yet never acknowledge anything positive just bash on and scapegoat a target as if they are fully responsible. Has your dark mind any capacity to see the change on the horizon



driving the team into mediocrity isnt anything positive i can acknowledge ....

the thing about horizons that my mind understands MJ is as you see the horizon and u walk towards it.. its still the same distance away as the last step u took.. to the one before it... and the three million steps before those were equally as close to the horizon ....

We have a 150th... and we have had many presidents.
Only one Dick Pratt has a portrait in the board room.. to me thats a bit necrophialic wouldnt you agree?
and his two heirs in the boardroom to boot... i dont see the point of that.. AND you still have not told us why theyre BOTH there and what one can do the other cant.

AND you keep saying we have to pay homage and thank them for their donations.

Seriously?? u give something to someone to help them.. and forever they must thank you...
So basically.. that family gave us money with the expectation we suck their family cock??

Jezz youre a bizarre person.

one thing about giving is you give it because you wanna.. not because you want something. if you want something in return youre definitely doing it for yourself.. and your interest.. if thats the case then we shouldnt have to thank them....

Look you should go away and think about what youre going to tell me next.. and then when you have thought it out properly then come and discuss stuff.

Dick Pratts portrait hanging in the boardroom.. and not George Harris or all the other presidents in our 150th birthday year???
who cares about portraits the pratts do obviously....only theirs is allowed up in the board room...constant reminder to the others.. about the pecking order..
the guy has passed away...and he hasnt even been the best president this club has ever had...
Says it all!!!... :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:59 am 
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Mr S.

What have you got against Dick Pratt??

Don't you realise how much money he has pumped into our club over the decades? It must be well over 900 thousand dollars (US)

You should say thank you and goodbye.

You should be utterly ashamed at yourself with that wagging tongue of yours.

You are very lucky that your mate Abott-oir and that Palestinian Treasurer of ours mr Hockey are in power. They are fighters for freedom, human rights and the American way.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:38 pm 
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We really need urgently to revise the composition of our board.
Just heard RIchmond President Peggy Haines on the radio she was sensational put ours to shame .
Also she is a corporate governance expert which given Essendons issues is in my view essential on any board
Who is our corporate governance expert on the board ? presumably that's something that our present board is not interested in


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frank dardew wrote:
We really need urgently to revise the composition of our board.
Just heard RIchmond President Peggy Haines on the radio she was sensational put ours to shame .
Also she is a corporate governance expert which given Essendons issues is in my view essential on any board
Who is our corporate governance expert on the board ? presumably that's something that our present board is not interested in


I don't think the issue with our board is poor corporate governance...Swan is carrying out the executive decision that mirror Board philosophy and direction.

Our problem, is that our board is stale, backward looking and controlled by to Oligarchical groups which essentially work as one anyway.

Need some fresh ideas, and directors that have a variety of skill sets, so our board becomes dynamic and forward looking.

the club badly needs an honest appraisal from top to bottom, otherwise we spend another few decades in the fields of mediocrity and self destruction

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:48 pm 
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Cretylus wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
We really need urgently to revise the composition of our board.
Just heard RIchmond President Peggy Haines on the radio she was sensational put ours to shame .
Also she is a corporate governance expert which given Essendons issues is in my view essential on any board
Who is our corporate governance expert on the board ? presumably that's something that our present board is not interested in


I don't think the issue with our board is poor corporate governance...Swan is carrying out the executive decision that mirror Board philosophy and direction.

Our problem, is that our board is stale, backward looking and controlled by to Oligarchical groups which essentially work as one anyway.

Need some fresh ideas, and directors that have a variety of skill sets, so our board becomes dynamic and forward looking.

the club badly needs an honest appraisal from top to bottom, otherwise we spend another few decades in the fields of mediocrity and self destruction


swan must be sacked


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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
frank dardew wrote:
We really need urgently to revise the composition of our board.
Just heard RIchmond President Peggy Haines on the radio she was sensational put ours to shame .
Also she is a corporate governance expert which given Essendons issues is in my view essential on any board
Who is our corporate governance expert on the board ? presumably that's something that our present board is not interested in


I don't think the issue with our board is poor corporate governance...Swan is carrying out the executive decision that mirror Board philosophy and direction.

Our problem, is that our board is stale, backward looking and controlled by to Oligarchical groups which essentially work as one anyway.

Need some fresh ideas, and directors that have a variety of skill sets, so our board becomes dynamic and forward looking.

the club badly needs an honest appraisal from top to bottom, otherwise we spend another few decades in the fields of mediocrity and self destruction


swan must be sacked


Don't worry Mozzei, Swan is already on the job sorting everything out for us to go forward.

Buckley to take over from Mick in 2019, and we sign up Cloke at 2 mil per year and an aging nick maxwell, as well as get Stan Magro on the board and Garry Pert to replace him by 2023.

Swan even has a succession plan for himself when he retires in about 10 tears.

By then we may as well be wearing magpie jumpers

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 2:43 pm 
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You are joking surely Cret
Our Pres publicly states that what Essendon* did wasn't bad
the last umpteen directors haven't been elected
country members disenfranchised for a number of years
and we haven't got a corporate governance problem :banghead:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:23 am 
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frank dardew wrote:
You are joking surely Cret
Our Pres publicly states that what Essendon** did wasn't bad
the last umpteen directors haven't been elected
country members disenfranchised for a number of years
and we haven't got a corporate governance problem :banghead:

frank... but youre missing the crux

"nobody killed anybody"

anyway,,,sticks is going the constitution doesnt allow him to be on the board for any longer than he is. SIXTEEN YEARS... its no coincidence mind u.... hes had his presence shadowing over our very darkest period....
he will be replaced by someone from inside the board.

the guy from woolies i doubt would do it.

most smart people wouldnt walk into that set up...
its a career tarnisher.

only an insider would play in the pig sty

very surprised if an outsider would do the job... considering youd hope he has any brains.

will be one of the Oligarchs apointees and board invitees i reckon.... i have little doubt on that

can u imagine someone wanting to do the job and hes capable and going on that board alone??? :yikes:

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frank dardew wrote:
You are joking surely Cret
Our Pres publicly states that what Essendon** did wasn't bad
the last umpteen directors haven't been elected
country members disenfranchised for a number of years
and we haven't got a corporate governance problem :banghead:


actually sticks said "its not as if they killed anyone" (or words to that effect)

and they didnt kill anyone - unless players start becoming ill long term with the cocktail of unkown drugs they were injected with.

Apart from Clarkson who had a few digs at Hird and the bombers, the AFL and the clubs, as well as the captains have been either supportive or silent on the drug cheats from Tullamarine.

I know about the electoral process at the CFC.

I attended an AGM where the regulations at the club were changed - Dick Pratt in charge as President. On all resolutions to be put to the 150 or so members present at Princes Park, hand went up. I can only recall my hand going up on 2 resolutions to object and some members raised their eyebrows. One member told me to put my hand down and I had to tell him to @#$%&! off.

The sheep made their decision.

The club could always make board inititated appointments but these directors had to go to the members at the next AGM.

What we have now is, if a director steps down, then the board can appoint a replacement to take over the remaining period (3 or 4 years I think?)

And when an outsider puts their name up for an election and the club doesnt like what they stand for, the club has various tricks that ensures they dont get on the board (see 1994 election result)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:56 am 
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club these days says elections and individuals trying to get n the bard via elections cost the club $70,000 plus.
as president sticks also uses club letterhead and behalf of the club letters to persuade members to not vote for any new people in elections.
and the last few have all been invited onto the board... cherry picking people they can work with or want to have with them...(except fahour .. but he was ascended by the Pratts anyway

if thats not an Oligarchy kind of set up

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Synbad wrote:
club these days says elections and individuals trying to get n the bard via elections cost the club $70,000 plus.
as president sticks also uses club letterhead and behalf of the club letters to persuade members to not vote for any new people in elections.
and the last few have all been invited onto the board... cherry picking people they can work with or want to have with them...(except fahour .. but he was ascended by the Pratts anyway

if thats not an Oligarchy kind of set up


...and do you remember one election, a letter by the club that listed the 3 directors who were up for re-election and they listed one individual candidate who wanted to get on board last? And when I say directors being re-elected for another term I really mean rubber stamped at the AGM.

The 4th candidate complained to the returning officer, or the electoral commission,

How much did that extra letter mail out cost?

Its so easy to displace any of these board members (with exception of ex players who have the good will of the members to count on)

Normally, Carlton supporters dont front up to AGMs and vote, and very few send in postal votes....

And be very careful when you send in postal votes if you cast yoru vote in a different way. Make sure that the candidate you vote for has plenty of scrutineers counting votes

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