A win could be week-defining

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our club is a rabble at the moment

I'm soooooooooo deveo

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We better @#$%&! win. With this selected team NO EXCUSES!

21+1 on 21+1....game on

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Whats the betting that Ding Dong is the sub

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I have never been so flat before a game - ever.

Tanking or no tanking, the way we are going, the end of the 2012 season can't come quick enough. Talking about 'playing the kids' under these circumstances is like sprinkling flour on a stale sponge.

Roll on change!

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22:1

Anyone know where Kerr is at? We kept him on the list and booted Setanta, who clearly wd have been handy at the mo. If Kerr can't get a gig when Garlett can't get near it, but is continually rewarded for bad form with games. Hendo injured after one game , how predictable. Great to see Levi and Bell get a gig but will be very tough, Esp for Levi. Maybe we could come up with a radical plan, maybe no ruck man but an extra mobile player to exploit Minson on the ground....hang on, Ratts is coach, no chance of any imagination, be no stats to support anything radical. Lucky we just signed a third first ruck for another 3 years on the back of 35 games over4 years at $400k a year....hang on, he got himself suspended after being dropped to the 2s, so when we need him, he's in the stands. We are a train wreck. We had a great chance to build a side from the draft and we have blown it. It is so infuriating to see us back at rebuild stage, and when I hear talk of who we are going to get from other clubs I shudder, another overpaid underperformer who we swap high draft picks for. Look at north, the list is all their draft picks, no swaps. Why couldn't we do that, what has happened to JR, Bower, Lucas, why are players going backwards, why have we got so little out of picks from late first to 3rd round. We are headed to our longest ever flag drought. I think it stands atv23 years. It is so depressing. 18 years next yr and no hope till we rebuild.

Three of them are ruckmen.... i thought you didnt like 3 ruckmen in the team at the one time.
Waite hasbt been on the park for years and is unlikely.
And the rest they have all played and had shit games and inconstent games more or less throughout the year.

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Without getting in the Ratten, MC and whole board shit again it will be an interesting game from my point of view for mainly jusone reason.
I would like to see our midfield without Judd and also without a known ruck this to me will be the focus of the game.
I want to see if they can actually think and adapt or if they will fall apart.
This in it self is worth watching and seeing if the Carlton football club has a bright future or not.
How they line up?
Who will be responsible?
Who will work for their team mate?

Sorry but the way I look at it Judd getting suspended was the best thing for him and the club.

The CEO at OUR club heads up the footy department 'from an outside unofficial sense'. He has easily the most influence - more so than the coach. Other clubs don't have that model but Greg Swann is a football CEO. He influences recruiting, he is the main man in list management - ask someone involved in the club and I am sure they would verify. Other clubs with this model include Melbourne who have that flog Cameron Schwab - a football ceo. Brian Cook is a business ceo. Every club is different - Chris Pelchen has the biggest say at St Kilda now.

Of course he influences list management and player management. But he isn't the overwhelming influence which everyone on here subscribes to because he is the easiest to blame.

Thats cos you gave up footy the other day.....

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Yep and you where the major cause of it......that would make you feel better, no doubt.

Well if he doesnt demand the stature to control what he does he shouldnt be coaching... thats what youd call a claytons coach.

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We've gone from Kruezer, Warnock, Hampson and Jacobs to Levi Casboult as our No.1 ruck in the space of 18 months. Geez i must be in the Twilight Zone.

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Tanking has returned
We are a real chance to finish below Richmond and Brisbane and quite possibly the Western Bulldogs.

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. i have this voodoo doll... and i have written Surrey Blue on it.. and i make it do all kinds of things...totally weird stuff.....

anyway.... i drove over it with my car today...

yu say you feel flat???

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Actually two out of that 9 are ruck man.

Kreuzer & Hampson.

Warnock I didn't include. I mentioned him outside that number that even he is unavailable.