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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:07 am 
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Do we now have a "young and inexperienced team"? Anybody have access to the games/age stats comparing us to other clubs?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:17 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:20 am 
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TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Do we now have a "young and inexperienced team"? Anybody have access to the games/age stats comparing us to other clubs?



I’m not disputing out age average age has dropped but who will win us the games and why


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:22 am 
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TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Do we now have a "young and inexperienced team"? Anybody have access to the games/age stats comparing us to other clubs?

We're probably in the bottom 25%, though probably bottom 50% on match day.

redback wrote:
TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Do we now have a "young and inexperienced team"? Anybody have access to the games/age stats comparing us to other clubs?



I’m not disputing out age average age has dropped but who will win us the games and why

Well-coached football players with the right attitude, because they'll play well-coached football with the right attitude. :idea:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:51 am 
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jimmae wrote:
TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Do we now have a "young and inexperienced team"? Anybody have access to the games/age stats comparing us to other clubs?

We're probably in the bottom 25%, though probably bottom 50% on match day.

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TomAlvin'sWig wrote:
Do we now have a "young and inexperienced team"? Anybody have access to the games/age stats comparing us to other clubs?



I’m not disputing out age average age has dropped but who will win us the games and why

Well-coached football players with the right attitude, because they'll play well-coached football with the right attitude. :idea:


a attitude adjustment from the coach with a revised game plan from the previous two years to get him a contract extension :idea:


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:05 am 
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Boring!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:10 am 
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redback wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
This is what his remarks cause.
Media feed with no reason for it.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-03-20/b ... mick-talks

Well done to the club though but no need to keep defending ourselves here!


I hope he keeps opening his mouth and playing his little mind games because at the end of the day they will realise (if not already) what a selfish prick he really is.

plus it keeps me amused and gives me a lot more material :lol:

repeats are not new material

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 11:50 am 
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..redback, you can bag mm attitude all you like, but it's three coaches now with a crap playing culture, and it's only been mm that has recently started to turn this problem around..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:31 pm 
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..redback, you can bag mm attitude all you like, but it's three coaches now with a crap playing culture, and it's only been mm that has recently started to turn this problem around..


:lol:
You grasped that from our bottom 6 finish, did you?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:36 pm 
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..from the shift in playing attitude, work ethic and team work..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:42 pm 
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Results would indicate otherwise.
Perhaps you could offer some examples to support the statement..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:42 pm 
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Gotta hate it when coaches change their game plan

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:12 pm 
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Results would indicate otherwise.
Perhaps you could offer some examples to support the statement..



..no they don't BV.. ..results are results, playing culture is playing culture.. ..if you need examples, you haven't watched enough games..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:49 pm 
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We need to wait for the analysis from Tony Shaw, Kevin Bartlett, Dermie et al half way through the season before we make a decision. We should listen to Caro also.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:55 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Results would indicate otherwise.
Perhaps you could offer some examples to support the statement..


Culture is common behaviour.

I witness a much more unified group today than I did 3 years ago. The behaviours are becoming much more consistent and not solely reliant in a couple of figure heads.

And no better way than to re- enforce the point by hearing first hand from the players themselves.

There is a change happening, and for the positive, unfortunately it is not as fast as some would like.

Perhaps the MM dissenters are part of the past ie those wanting a quick fix


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:04 pm 
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Mick is happy with the coaching staff.
The club has chased other assistants since Mick has been at the club but hasn't landed them.
Carlton with Mick or without isn't a magnet.
One thing is for sure it's the first time we have every player reading off the same page.
Before any coaching can have effect is crucial for that to happen.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:24 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Results would indicate otherwise.
Perhaps you could offer some examples to support the statement..



..no they don't BV.. ..results are results, playing culture is playing culture.. ..if you need examples, you haven't watched enough games..


:lol:

Yeah, it goes without saying that you're a great disciple of the game and I obviously haven't watched enough.
But humour me anyway, exactly what should I be looking for.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:26 pm 
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london blue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Results would indicate otherwise.
Perhaps you could offer some examples to support the statement..


Culture is common behaviour.

I witness a much more unified group today than I did 3 years ago. The behaviours are becoming much more consistent and not solely reliant in a couple of figure heads.

And no better way than to re- enforce the point by hearing first hand from the players themselves.

There is a change happening, and for the positive, unfortunately it is not as fast as some would like.

Perhaps the MM dissenters are part of the past ie those wanting a quick fix


Who are the MM dissenters?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:59 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Mick is happy with the coaching staff.
The club has chased other assistants since Mick has been at the club but hasn't landed them.
Carlton with Mick or without isn't a magnet.
One thing is for sure it's the first time we have every player reading off the same page.
Before any coaching can have effect is crucial for that to happen.



Culture?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:21 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Mick is happy with the coaching staff.
The club has chased other assistants since Mick has been at the club but hasn't landed them.
Carlton with Mick or without isn't a magnet.
One thing is for sure it's the first time we have every player reading off the same page.
Before any coaching can have effect is crucial for that to happen.


Synbad, I have no doubt everyone is reading off the MM page. Players, assistant coaches, fitness and conditioning etc.
I just have doubts about whether it's entirely the right text. It's all one mans message.

As for those making the ridiculous assertions that results and culture are not linked, even Mick acknowledges the relationship. If I remember correctly, Nathan Buckley questioned the Magpies culture under Malthouse. Malthouses response was that he had created a "winning culture". Even in 2009 he was telling the same message.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2005-05-09/m ... re/1566998

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Malthouse called on his senior players to establish a "winning culture", saying he was happy with the form of his rookies but the club's stars needed to provide the leadership to get the Pies back on track.

And he said the rot threatened to spread if senior players did not take action.

"If you're in a winning culture it can rub off, if you're in a losing culture it can rub off, so if they can stand up in those pressures, it's so encouraging," he said.

"But you don't want it to be a repeat performance because it certainly doesn't do them [the rookies] any good, because you end up with a losing culture, rather than [thinking] how can we win a game of footy?"

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