This could all end up being disastrous for us if you think about it

Just say we lost that game in the last round to port, we could have ended up with Pick 6 in the draft. Instead we move down 6 places in the entire draft.

Lets say Dale Thomas decides to stay a collingwood player.

So we could end up losing.....

Eddie Betts
Dale Thomas
Pick 6
Jeremy Laidler a quality individual and solid player

Instead we get
Pick 12
Late second round compensation for Betts

I have no more confidence in us getting Pick 6 right as we have in getting Pick 12 right, but hey I never let facts get in the way of a good story either.

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We never had Thomas, we never had pick 6. Ergo, we haven't "lost" them.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Thought we would get 9 as our 1st pick or am I missing something here

Nor does losing Laidler or not getting Thomas have any relationship with beating Port.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Do you think Ergo will fall to us with our second round draft pick?

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

GET VINCENT LINGIARI

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

It's not a dirty word.

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

No. YOU think about it.

Im justing saying it could turn out to be a nothing year for this club once again.

If we fail to lure those players
If others decide to walk out
and
the decision not to tank it will hurt us.

I think Stitch Robinson has shown some good signs at times but I've seen him fade away as the game wears on, Mick has dealt with meat heads and turned them into something. Hell look at Heath Shaw at Collingwood one of the biggest boof heads in the game since Mick left he's discipline has seemed horrible. Point is I think we'll know next season if he ain't traded this year if he's staying.

Why do so many posters have this obsession for trading players for draft picks
Since when has carlton been any good at using draft picks , with the exceptions of the number 1's and 2's we suck at using draft picks
The club couldn't pick its nose when it came to using draft picks you would be hard pressed to find one player who with have successfully brought into the team via drafting with picks
So we trade one dud we used a draft pick on for another pick to pick another dud
Doesn't make sense to me

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LOL. There's a stirring motto...

"We're shit, so why bother trying?"

It's 2013, not 1993.

A thought to ponder...

How many small forwards, who haven't have the ability to run through the midfield (specialist small forwards), have played in a Premiership? I can think of one - Phil Matera. Can't think of any others.

We have three who have been played mostly as specialist small forwards. Betts has had some runs through the midfield, especially in the last month of the season. Garlett has very brief stints there. Yarran can play a role across half back, but Malthouse seems to want to use him forward.

I could see us playing all three if Yarran played across half back (where I think he should play, and be taught the defensive element. He's too good to be getting 10 possessions in the forward line, he needs to be getting 20+ possessions each week), Betts played 30-40% midfield and Garlett could up his midfield time similarly.

Which of them will be there next year is another question.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Kevin Bartlett springs to mind immediately.....he broke our hearts many times with his speed and goal kicking ability....especially in Finals.

He kicked 778 goals in a great career.

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Chances are (apart from possibly Daisy) we won't be landing any big names.

Maybe we need to look at names like:

- Ricky Henderson & Andy Otten (Adel)
- Mitch Brown (Gee)
- Shane Savage (Haw)
- Luke Delaney (North)
- Aron Siposs (St.K)
- Fraser McInnes (WCE)
- Daniel Cross FA (Bulldogs)
- Dylan Addison FA (Bulldogs)
- Colin Sylvia FA (Melb)

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I think you're underplaying what it means to play finals for the players and the club as a whole.

Anyway, your logic is flawed. Sorry.

I think you are offbeam there boys. Matera was a gun wingman/midefielder not a small forward and KB was a gun first rover /midfielder who became a forward in the twilight of his career when he was about 35

Cyril Rioli barely runs thru the midfield, neither Lewis Jetta but both have flags, also Shannon Byrnes and Mat Stokes were small forwards in Cats flag sides. Let's go back a long way - Syd Jackson

I think you have the wrong Matera.

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Phil or Peter?
Peter was the gun winger, Phil the smaller player only a forward pocket.