he has been acountable. the other night against gws tho ... he was asked to be 2nd ruck all around the ground and in the middle. and he wasn't competitive.

I think you're confusing it with the previous Sydney QF in 2010. I was there with my dad for that game, it was a barnstormer, I was surprisingly zen about the loss. In 2013 we got smashed, we were 9 goals down at 3qt. I was at my buck's night so again not overly fussed (it was a free hit, after all) and consoled myself with a lappy D in any case. My main memory of the game was neither team scored at one end of the ground in the entire second half, and thinking man you'd be annoyed if you were sitting behind the goals at that end.

Not pot shots at all. Just opinions. I don't expect him to be a star ruckman but I expect him to at least try.
You don't have to be a great ruck exponent to jump. He doesn't mind jumping into Charlie going for a mark.
It's not like he doesn't have the physical capacity to jump at the ball.

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No one was. We gave up. I wouldn't read anything into a dead rubber

agree

The more I think about it, the more I want Kennedy in. He's probably our toughest player. Built for finals.

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Does it very well? Averages less than 1 hit-out per game Mick.
Compare that to Tom Hawkins who averages more than 3 per game and creates numerous goals from his ruck contests.

I know Harry rucks the forward 50 occasionally but TDK needs a breather every quarter. The coaches only required Harry to compete for 5-minutes per quarter in the ruck last week. Surely that's not too big an ask. If it's good enough for Lewis Young or a 194cm Jack Silvagni to give it a decent crack, I don't see why a 204cm player cant make the sacrifice.

But it appears that ship has sailed. IMHO, it was the coaches giving Harry an opportunity as well. It was saying "you may be struggling for form/confidence but here's an opportunity for you to get into the game and add extra value".
But it appears they'll look at other options now. IMHO, it was worth the time to try. Let's hope Harry get's his form back up forward because we need him up and firing.

Whatever the case, whichever team they pick, I'll be there giving 100% support.

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Correct but 2010 wasn't a QF, it was an eliminator. It was a great game & the thing that always stood out for me was how dispassionate the Swans fans were on the train back to town. Nobody talking about the game, just chat about the rest of the weekend. They're a funny lot the Swans fans

And yep 2013 was bloody terrible. From memory Sydney had injuries both in the week leading up to the game & in the match itself, but still towelled us up.

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Very disappointing loss all round.

Myself, Agro Jr and Little Ms Agro Jr, got caught up in the “believe” hoopla and we drove up to Sydney for the day watched the game, stayed in parramatta overnight and drove home the next day with our tail between our legs.

Very quiet trip on way home.

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Which is why I’d prefer a “DO” mantra for this game rather than “BELIEVE” or “STRONGER TOGETHER”.

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Tom Hawkins ? geez " Vain " , thats the master versus apprentice stuff . Took Tomahawk a long time to get to that level . Many years in fact . Anyhow , i still reckon Harry gives a good contest in that forward fifty and gives Pitto and Tom an invaluable breather ....................... one thing we both agree on " Ol Mate is no matter who the selectors go with we will be 100% behind them and whats more we are in with a big show .

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From memory in the 2010 final Henderson should have taken a shot for goal and handballed to Jeff Garlett instead?

I can't find it on youtube but do have PTSD from looking for it. Forgot we lost buy 5 points.

I just remember storming out of my house and walking down the street fighting off tears afterwards

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Maybe he's carrying injuries and instructed not to take too many risks. I know what you mean though.

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Reckon Waite might have hit the post in those last few minutes also

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You're right.

My son was only 6yo and Errol was 7yo.

I really am not good at recalling a lot of games in the new century, for good reason.

Then again it may be the onset of dementia remembering all the early stuff and not storing much of the stuff to recall.

Where's did I leave my wheelchair?

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Thanks CK, could've sworn it was a QF but you are correct, we were 8th with a mediocre 11-11 record.

The most [REDACTED] up thing is, we had our best Ratts season in 2011 when we finished 5th, destroyed * in the EF then got pipped by WCE in Perth by 3 points... but I don't remember either of those games. Not even a little bit! I remember the Swans games vividly, I remember the 2009 heartbreaking choke in Brisbane, but towelling the cheats? Nada! Why is my brain so cruel???

I envy you for not being able to remember that 2011 SF

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Pretty sure Hendo dropped an uncontested chest mark in the goal square too.
And for all of Juddy's brilliance and he was brilliant, missed a couple he should have nailed - especially in the 3rd.

Watched that one in a bar in HK. My wife was there for work at the time.
I remember one of her colleagues saying to me after the game, at least you didn't get thrashed.
I still get told off for my response.

I know what you're wishing for Vain, but I like players to look up and know we have marking options up forward.

I guess the highlighted bit is an opinion too, so I will take it as such.

Just because it happens and happens vice versa too, in a game where decisions are made in a split second, I will have to disagree with the opinion if it implies he does it on purpose or with a lack of consideration. Jeremy Cameron and Hawkins do it to each other. It happens when theres 2 good KPFs.

Jumping into someone coming straight at you is very different to jumping at the ball, onto someone infront of you, facing the ball.

Don't let it frustrate you. Its not such a big deal. Just because Pitto and TDK aren't marking around the ground and not imposing themselves on the scoreboard, doesn't mean we have to take our best CHF out of his position; a position we have no replacement for in that position. That's all. Blame list management and development. I recon TDK will come good one day and they will start to stick and he will kick goals. How many friggin marks does TDK drop? Many are opportunities for a shot at goal. Opportunity lost.

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