Players with op have weeks off and come back all the time. Ratts is not flogging Henda. He played ok last week but the injury will be there for a while yet.

K's hip has been coming and going all year. Felt great against the Pies and played a very good game. Pulled up well.
Last week a flare up as Okham reported so he is out.

Getting all emotional and saying Ratten playing injured players to save his career is just rubbish. Why would you play blokes you knew were injured thinking they will win you a game. Think about it

Hendo osteo pubis - how does that happen in an afl system? hardly the coaches fault and there is no way he would have got cleared to play if he wasn't right last week.........

Kreuzer played the house down one week against Collingwood and can't run the next - i'd hardly say that is the coaches fault either... imagine what crap you would have given him if we omitted him post collingwood game....

Ratten's decision to delist o'hailpin? who is on the list management committee? is it just the coach? is there not buy in from the ceo / recruiters / footy manager - how did u know it was rats that wanted him gone and not the others?

poor list management - is not the coaches domain - its not like carlton is run like what ross lyon had at st kilda, its a far more consultive environment where the list management team i am sure have a greater say than just the coach

poor player management - is fitness and conditioning responsibility surely

poor coaching - is hard to judge because great teams speak of continuity and we haven't had any based on the other 2 facets - when we did or had talent available at disposal the team looked good and on improve - we beat pies twice - u could argue to flukes if ur the absolute synic but we didn't get close to them last year

are kangaroos not australian? (rooboy)

i can't believe people can just blanket the coach for everything when again they just guess.....

The coach is the head of all things football. He s like the CEO of that area, he is responsible. Heis the highest paid, the highest profile position and the boss.

He takes the good with the bad whoever he is.

To say he doesn't have any influence of list management, player management etc is mind blowing.

He is in charge and as such is responsible for our football.

To suggest anything else is an act of mediocrity.

That post has too much sense for this website.

That's not quite fair.

Russell cares all the time.
Bower will give his best whether that's good enough or not.
Thornton will take his marks and kick some goals although his GPS rating may not be through the roof.

Agreed - there is absolutely no way from a legal duty of care point of view that Ratten could ever overrule a doctors recommendation.

Now this is a post that has too much sense for club kangaroo.

I am not guessing.

The coach is the 'supporter' pressure relief.

Now this is a post that has too much sense for club kangaroo.

I don't count Waite in our best 22 anymore. Nearly 30, a bad back and injury prone.

Even when he plays he inconsistent .

I'm afraid his times nearly passed. If we can get some good footy out of him it's a bonus but we need to look elsewhere for key forwards.

The new coach won't be counting on a 22-game season from Waite when he does his planning.

Awful lot of coin for someone who can't be relied on to stand up for more than a month.

I'm actually excited about Saturday nights game in light of the younguns in Bell and Levi playing.

Heads held high boys and remember the jumper your playing for.

Bower Russell Thornton !!

Id prefer Peter Russell Clarke