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Ecclesiastes 1:4, "One generation passes away, and another generation comes: but The Blues abide forever."

I'm with you Mark. The lack of professionalism shown by the club, time and time again is disgraceful.

If die hards like us on an internet forum are pissed off and ripping up memberships, what about the more common members.

This stinks very bad, and Synbad is right - action is needed.

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The measure of a life is a measure of love and respect
So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

I just read the boat cruise news, didnt read it lastnite

Bring back the Dildo

Thats if Fev didn't take it to Brissy, i'm sure he would of passed it on

We were a better club with Fev, atleast only one player made the news, not the whole team!

And the Winner in the Trade goes to Fevola. Pay rise, extra year on contract and will play for a premiership. Fevolas antics brownlow nite are a distant memory now and the club is known as a pack of drunks, not just a individual anymore. Fev has the last laugh now.

I hope this is the final chapter in a decade to forget.
Sticks should step aside and whoever organised the "booze cruise" should be made a massive head on a stick and removed from thier position(s).
Those criticising Juddy have to understand he is a player not a parent. Senior players like Houls, Betts, Scotland, are often often those he must control. He leads on the track that's his style, the poor bloke was made Captain before he even played a game such was the deficiency of decent cititzens in the list.
Drinking games -what are they fifteen years old.

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Green Shooter

HAHAHAH!!! Hey Mark, remember your post earlier this week???

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Walk on, Walk on,
With hope, in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone,
YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE!!!

08/02/1981 - GATE 7...Our brothers will never be forgotten!!!

so ,as i posted yesterday folks...
Save me......save me from tomorrow......
I don't want to sail with this ship of fools....
kinda puts a whole new meaning on it today....
ayyyy maties.....our little carlton boat is unsightly right now.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Totally disagree. Nothing more effective than taking away something you love and with these guys being part of the Carlton 'group' is a major part of their identities. Take that away and they will hopefully realise what they are missing.

It will then be a huge warning to the group.

Steve Johnson and Geelong being the classic example.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

should we just straight up sack fast eddie?

i'm starting to think maybe we need to take further serious action (after Fev).

thats twice in 4 months. he's a great player and one of my favoruites but gee there had better be some REAL dicipline handed out not just some piss week fine to thses guys.

players beeing 'deeply remorseful' and administrators 'furious' only carries so much weight.

I thought the whole Fev sceniaro was our line in the sand. cleary not.

I feel sick that I have contributed my own money to this joke of an organisation - and if i hadn't already signed up I be strongly considering pulling my membership altogether.

Jan 4 can't come quick enough and swift and harsh action had better be taken.

There should be public apologies, alcohol awearness mettings, community work, chartity contributions, and serious susepnsions/restrictions for all involved.

I dont care about our chances early next season now - this is a long term culture issue undermining the whole club.

otherwise whats the point. we will never be a flag threat again if we dont have a serious, current, and responsible culture.

and perhaps giving the media a tip off to do further investigating...

In hindsight though, it sounded like a typical district football team piss up.

The club can't change what has happened, but you would of thought if there was virtually the whole football team on the boat, they would of had minders and made sure someone controlled the alcohol consumption. Not hard to have a couple security on the boat controlling the drinks.

I don't think Judd is to blame. You don't have much leadership control when your drinking with the boys and even if your not drinking its hard to control someone to stop drinking, let alone the whole team on a boat. Judd is not to blame here, this sounded like a planned event, measures should of been put in place to stop this from happening. The whole leadership group would of been on the boat aswell, which if someone wanted to be captain they would of shown it on the boat cruise.

We can sack everyone, players, the admistrators, ceo, president, but l don't think thats the answer. I think the club seriously has to appoint someone to manage team events. That person plans the event, sets the rules, has minders organised for the players and a organised bus dropping players homw would be a good idea.

Your never going to stop team drinking events, atleast put measures in place to stop it spirralling out of control

Synbad is right. The fish rots at the head. Sticks has to go.

As someone else said we are now what StKilda was.

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

My membership is now off the table. Never thought I would say that, but I'm taking a year off buying one.

If the club shows, over the course of a year, they're serious about getting their shit together I will be back on board. If I wanted to give my money to an amateur club I'd give to my old ammo's team, who by the way act more professionally than this lot - I haven't heard of anyone their arrested over the last 5 years.

Swann is the head, he has to go. He made Fev the scapegoat but it has blown up in his face. We've lost the best goal kicker in the country and our culture is no different. I didn't like Pagan but at least he didn't put up with this shit. Swann, Ratts and Judd are the leaders of the club, board members have nothing to do with it.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

+ 2

Run the flowers into the ground, ALONG with the entire administration. One in all in.

And yes, allow the fans to come along and join in the live firing exercises.

I am angry!

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Everything before the word "but" is horseshit - J Snow

Actually I am with you on most of this SB, but also the leadership within the playing group needs serious questioning. Does anyone of the 44 players have any understanding of binge drinking. Were dumb players told pretty clearly what was required? What the hell were the leadership group doing while Casboult was encouraged to drink himself stupid.

This is just utterly pathetic. The admin haven't got their message across. The leadership group seem to be standing around and watching, does anyone at the club actually get it?

You can't single out Eddie, because he didn't go straight home after Mil hannas restaurant/bar visit. The whole club was pissed by the sounds of it. You just can't single him out cos he bumped in to the cops, the whole team probably would of been arressted for being drunk if cops were around all.

This calls for one L. Matthews

i just got my membershup in the mail. i feel sick. felt like ripping it up. when are we going to become professional. now i have to deal with my sisters wanker of a bro in law giving me crap about carlton - he is a brissie bears supporter. so thanks again have to deal with a loud mouth wanker for 5-6 hours tomorrow.

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Alexander the Great was born in Greece!

I am not sure I would say he just bumped into some cops. I am fairly sure he was doing something to attract their attention!

He has to be on thin ice. He was told he needs to improve his committment and this is what he does. He has had several issues with drinking and has not yet shown the committment needed to be a top level AFL footballer.

The guy has more talent than most and is simply wasting it. Enough is enough. Wake up or get out!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

what i'm worried about more than singling anyone out is that we made a huge statement trading fev and i'm concerned this will be a wet lettuce leaf punishment for all involved.

eddie was arrested by my reckoning ATLEAST 12 full hours after the got off the boat.

you say the rest of the team could/have should have been arrested but they werent. Maybe some of the lads had the brains to call it a day earlier on. i dont know i wasn't there. what i do know is that eddie should have had his own wake up call 2 weeks before playing his first ever final for the club, and that should have been reinforced with the Fevola sacking.

but due to obvious club wide culture issues - he wasn't.

there needs to be SERIOUS ramafications for what has happened club wide - not just for eddie, but maybe sacking or seriously suspending the main offenders would keep in line with sending Fev packing.

I really cant believe the club would put itself in this situation, so close to the Fev saga.

clearly we have a very serious and deep seeded culture issue - and until its compleltey irridicated we are going NO WHERE!