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nah... keep silvagni at the back. he's building continuity there and looking good. the back 6 need to put games together.

i'd bring tdk as permanent forward/ ruck with charlie. and bring in a ruck. preferrably not pittonet, the other kid. but we all know michael loves him some pittonet, so...


Keep the backline playing together.

Jack was asked a few weeks back whether he preferred back or forward and if he would like to swing if required... his answer was basically, just keep me in the backline... so let's not stuff around with things that are actually working.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:34 am 
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nah... keep silvagni at the back. he's building continuity there and looking good. the back 6 need to put games together.

i'd bring tdk as permanent forward/ ruck with charlie. and bring in a ruck. preferrably not pittonet, the other kid. but we all know michael loves him some pittonet, so...


Keep the backline playing together.

Bring in a ruck for ruck's sake vs Xerri, or a ruck who has the strength to match?

I'm guessing you want 20yo O'Keefe in to debut against Xerri?
You reckon that's a fair contest, just because your heavy bias against Pitto?
Cut your nose to spite your face?

Regardless of playing forward or not, TDK needs a decent chop out of he is going to give us value in the ruck.
TDK is playing like a $600K ruck losing against the bigger rucks thus far this year (Nankervis, Meek, English, Cameron), and now its Xerri time. I don't think O'Keefe is ready for this kind of baptism.

Its either Pitto vs Xerri or Young vs Xerri. Take your pick.


cru suggested okeefe would be better than pitto. i was willing to trust his judgement since pitto is not an afl standard ruck. young isn't an afl standard footballer.

the cupboards are pretty bare. sometimes baptisms of fire are the very best baptisms.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:36 am 
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Tough selections... not because we have players banging down the door due to their form, just from a philosophical position.

The issue with bringing Pitto back is that he plays restricted minutes even when he's in form and fit. Off zero footy and coming back from injury I just can't see him playing much. And as we know, he cannot be rested forward...

North's defence isn't especially tall - Comben is 199, Corr 194, Logue 191.

We could play Young *and* Pittonet and try to stretch them?

I also can't see us making many changes outside of those injury-enforced ones.

OUT: McKay, Kemp
IN: ?

Does Acres come straight back? Young to replace McKay? Pitto in so that TDK is basically McKay's replacement? Does Lord keep his starting 22 spot after a pretty solid game? Is Hollands ready to go... and is he Kemp's replacement? Does Cripps play a lot more forward?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:52 am 
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If there was ever a match-up where playing Pittonet makes some sense it's to take on Xerri. This week, given McKay and Kemp will be missing, you'd probably be happier to play TDK predominantly forward, so it kinda makes some sense. My concern is that Pitto would have to be underdone, wouldn't he? Perhaps his injury is resolved, but his match fitness couldn't be there yet. I'm guessing they'll go with Young instead.

So I'd go with ...
OUT: McKay, Kemp, Docherty
IN: Young, E.Hollands, Acres


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:33 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
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nah... keep silvagni at the back. he's building continuity there and looking good. the back 6 need to put games together.

i'd bring tdk as permanent forward/ ruck with charlie. and bring in a ruck. preferrably not pittonet, the other kid. but we all know michael loves him some pittonet, so...


Keep the backline playing together.

Bring in a ruck for ruck's sake vs Xerri, or a ruck who has the strength to match?

I'm guessing you want 20yo O'Keefe in to debut against Xerri?
You reckon that's a fair contest, just because your heavy bias against Pitto?
Cut your nose to spite your face?

Regardless of playing forward or not, TDK needs a decent chop out of he is going to give us value in the ruck.
TDK is playing like a $600K ruck losing against the bigger rucks thus far this year (Nankervis, Meek, English, Cameron), and now its Xerri time. I don't think O'Keefe is ready for this kind of baptism.

Its either Pitto vs Xerri or Young vs Xerri. Take your pick.


cru suggested okeefe would be better than pitto. i was willing to trust his judgement since pitto is not an afl standard ruck. young isn't an afl standard footballer.

the cupboards are pretty bare. sometimes baptisms of fire are the very best baptisms.


FFS braithy, there you go again...to suit your argument and disdain for Pitto. Cru didnt say that. Please stop doing that. Nothing to do with your selected memory. We are trying to debate facts.

Cru, like me, acknowledged TDK needs a chop out. 80% in the ruck fatigues TDK despite you thinking TDK can ruck 80% of Game. Cru made it clear how he feels about the big guys.

O'Keefe wasn't ready, but given Pitto was not considered due to injury Cru said its worth getting games into O'Keefe [ given the opposition was Williams vs West Coast]. He didn't mention anything ASAIK about O'Keefe vs Xerri.

I was the one who said I like what O'Keefe did in the preseason game against what appeared a lame Pittonet in an intrra club. I was the one who said I expected O'Keefe would break into the team as a Ruck/Fwd maybe this year.

So you think its a good idea to give O'Keefe a baptism of fire because you think that, not Cru.

Great for development? Shell shocking a kid against a beast and one of the best ruckmen in the comp, perhaps the best?

Your bias is beyond a joke. I don't care if Pitto is selected or not, but vs Xerri, for really obvious reason playing Pitto is a consideration...you can work that out. Hint: vs Xerri.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:36 pm 
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snakehips wrote:
If there was ever a match-up where playing Pittonet makes some sense it's to take on Xerri. This week, given McKay and Kemp will be missing, you'd probably be happier to play TDK predominantly forward, so it kinda makes some sense. My concern is that Pitto would have to be underdone, wouldn't he? Perhaps his injury is resolved, but his match fitness couldn't be there yet. I'm guessing they'll go with Young instead.

So I'd go with ...
OUT: McKay, Kemp, Docherty
IN: Young, E.Hollands, Acres


Has to be either Young or Pittonet.
Pitto has been training for a couple weeks and no idea about his fitness, but you're right about match fitness.

I'd prefer Pitto follows Xerri everywhere and plays unsociable footy, like the last time they played and Pitto got under Xerri's skin: I doubt TDK or Young can do that.

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bondiblue wrote:
snakehips wrote:
If there was ever a match-up where playing Pittonet makes some sense it's to take on Xerri. This week, given McKay and Kemp will be missing, you'd probably be happier to play TDK predominantly forward, so it kinda makes some sense. My concern is that Pitto would have to be underdone, wouldn't he? Perhaps his injury is resolved, but his match fitness couldn't be there yet. I'm guessing they'll go with Young instead.

So I'd go with ...
OUT: McKay, Kemp, Docherty
IN: Young, E.Hollands, Acres


Has to be either Young or Pittonet.
Pitto has been training for a couple weeks and no idea about his fitness, but you're right about match fitness.

I'd prefer Pitto follows Xerri everywhere and plays unsociable footy, like the last time they played and Pitto got under Xerri's skin: I doubt TDK or Young can do that.


Yeah. I want it to be Pitto and Elijah, but in reality Acres will come back and then it'll probably be Young, even though Pitto is the smart choice. I reckon they won't want to "demote" TDK to KPF/ second ruck when they're trying to convince him not to take the 1.7m.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:43 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
snakehips wrote:
If there was ever a match-up where playing Pittonet makes some sense it's to take on Xerri. This week, given McKay and Kemp will be missing, you'd probably be happier to play TDK predominantly forward, so it kinda makes some sense. My concern is that Pitto would have to be underdone, wouldn't he? Perhaps his injury is resolved, but his match fitness couldn't be there yet. I'm guessing they'll go with Young instead.

So I'd go with ...
OUT: McKay, Kemp, Docherty
IN: Young, E.Hollands, Acres


Has to be either Young or Pittonet.
Pitto has been training for a couple weeks and no idea about his fitness, but you're right about match fitness.

I'd prefer Pitto follows Xerri everywhere and plays unsociable footy, like the last time they played and Pitto got under Xerri's skin: I doubt TDK or Young can do that.


I'm happy for Acres to impress via the VFL, Doc hasn't been setting the world on fire but neither has Acres, and Doc is already in the team. Agree with the other two changes


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GreatEx wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
snakehips wrote:
If there was ever a match-up where playing Pittonet makes some sense it's to take on Xerri. This week, given McKay and Kemp will be missing, you'd probably be happier to play TDK predominantly forward, so it kinda makes some sense. My concern is that Pitto would have to be underdone, wouldn't he? Perhaps his injury is resolved, but his match fitness couldn't be there yet. I'm guessing they'll go with Young instead.

So I'd go with ...
OUT: McKay, Kemp, Docherty
IN: Young, E.Hollands, Acres


Has to be either Young or Pittonet.
Pitto has been training for a couple weeks and no idea about his fitness, but you're right about match fitness.

I'd prefer Pitto follows Xerri everywhere and plays unsociable footy, like the last time they played and Pitto got under Xerri's skin: I doubt TDK or Young can do that.


Yeah. I want it to be Pitto and Elijah, but in reality Acres will come back and then it'll probably be Young, even though Pitto is the smart choice. I reckon they won't want to "demote" TDK to KPF/ second ruck when they're trying to convince him not to take the 1.7m.


Saints are offering TDK Fwd/Ruck and the argument would be around prolonging his career ... maybe the pitch is to earn more after the 7 years at $1.7M, with a healthier body than being the battering ram for Carlton.

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Did anyone miss Acres?

Who would Acres push out?

I thought Cottrell and Docherty/Hollands were better than Acres has been this year.

Voss may make Acres earn his spot back.

If he was to come back in, I think he'd push out Doc TBH...or one of the 5 small forwards

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I would have Acres over Doc because at least you know he'll run hard both ways and go in hard all day. But Doc won't get dropped so I hope we're bold enough to make it an either/or call.


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I would have Acres over Doc because at least you know he'll run hard both ways and go in hard all day. But Doc won't get dropped so I hope we're bold enough to make it an either/or call.


I'm not sure if Docs spot is a given.

What you just posted has some cred.

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Doc is one of Vossy's favs... if he has to play, it needs to be as the sub

Interesting thing to watch this week will be our f50 entries which was one of the good things to come out of the WC game.

Can we build on last week or do we revert to long bombs under increased pressure...

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I would have Acres over Doc because at least you know he'll run hard both ways and go in hard all day. But Doc won't get dropped so I hope we're bold enough to make it an either/or call.
Acres turns it over with hack kicks
Doc turns it over with in point passes to opposition

Do we want are turn overs stylish or cringe worthy


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In E Hollands Young (Pitto only if TDK unfit, Young gives us options Def, Fwd, Ruc)
Out Inj Harry Kemp

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bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Braithy wrote:
nah... keep silvagni at the back. he's building continuity there and looking good. the back 6 need to put games together.

i'd bring tdk as permanent forward/ ruck with charlie. and bring in a ruck. preferrably not pittonet, the other kid. but we all know michael loves him some pittonet, so...


Keep the backline playing together.

Bring in a ruck for ruck's sake vs Xerri, or a ruck who has the strength to match?

I'm guessing you want 20yo O'Keefe in to debut against Xerri?
You reckon that's a fair contest, just because your heavy bias against Pitto?
Cut your nose to spite your face?

Regardless of playing forward or not, TDK needs a decent chop out of he is going to give us value in the ruck.
TDK is playing like a $600K ruck losing against the bigger rucks thus far this year (Nankervis, Meek, English, Cameron), and now its Xerri time. I don't think O'Keefe is ready for this kind of baptism.

Its either Pitto vs Xerri or Young vs Xerri. Take your pick.


cru suggested okeefe would be better than pitto. i was willing to trust his judgement since pitto is not an afl standard ruck. young isn't an afl standard footballer.

the cupboards are pretty bare. sometimes baptisms of fire are the very best baptisms.


FFS braithy, there you go again...to suit your argument and disdain for Pitto. Cru didnt say that. Please stop doing that. Nothing to do with your selected memory. We are trying to debate facts.

Cru, like me, acknowledged TDK needs a chop out. 80% in the ruck fatigues TDK despite you thinking TDK can ruck 80% of Game. Cru made it clear how he feels about the big guys.

O'Keefe wasn't ready, but given Pitto was not considered due to injury Cru said its worth getting games into O'Keefe [ given the opposition was Williams vs West Coast]. He didn't mention anything ASAIK about O'Keefe vs Xerri.

I was the one who said I like what O'Keefe did in the preseason game against what appeared a lame Pittonet in an intrra club. I was the one who said I expected O'Keefe would break into the team as a Ruck/Fwd maybe this year.

So you think its a good idea to give O'Keefe a baptism of fire because you think that, not Cru.

Great for development? Shell shocking a kid against a beast and one of the best ruckmen in the comp, perhaps the best?

Your bias is beyond a joke. I don't care if Pitto is selected or not, but vs Xerri, for really obvious reason playing Pitto is a consideration...you can work that out. Hint: vs Xerri.



i not reading all that bondi blabber. but in another thread just last night i suggested pitto come in and we leave tdk forward, and cru said the o'keefe kid would be better than pitto.

i haven't seen 1 minute of the kid play, but was happy to take cru's word for it since he has, and he knows his shit.


so tone it down. all the way down, please.


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Crusader wrote:
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execution stil mostly poor. but it was great to move the ball, look inside, lower eyes and look inwards in the F50. some good signs to build on. that's how we need to play.

i could see pittonet (sigh, gasp) playing next week with tdk a permanent forward.


Please no Pittonet as a second ruck/forward!



yeah i know. if it's up to me, pittonet never plays in our beloved jersey again. but michael seems to love him.

i would like to see tdk permanently forward. saves his body against Xerri, who's an animal.

Tom just got worked over by Bailey Williams. He’ll be saving himself for a Callum Sinclair… or his brother. :lol:

I’d go with Skull, who is up and going, before Pittonet.



here you go bondi, you blabbering baboon.


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Braithy wrote:
Crusader wrote:
Braithy wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Braithy wrote:
execution stil mostly poor. but it was great to move the ball, look inside, lower eyes and look inwards in the F50. some good signs to build on. that's how we need to play.

i could see pittonet (sigh, gasp) playing next week with tdk a permanent forward.


Please no Pittonet as a second ruck/forward!



yeah i know. if it's up to me, pittonet never plays in our beloved jersey again. but michael seems to love him.

i would like to see tdk permanently forward. saves his body against Xerri, who's an animal.

Tom just got worked over by Bailey Williams. He’ll be saving himself for a Callum Sinclair… or his brother. :lol:

I’d go with Skull, who is up and going, before Pittonet.



here you go bondi, you blabbering baboon.


Good work braithy. My apologies. I knew you could find proof if you had some. That’s a first.

I did get the shock of my life when you mentioned the possibility of Pitto selection.

I’m so use to you making stuff up, you don’t blame me do you?

I’ve had this discussion with cru prior to this. i questioned his definition of ‘up and going 20yo’ vs seasoned ruckman in general, in the pre match weagles thread. Like some people I don’t think he rate the value of ruckmen, as much as I do, but we agree $1M for a ruck who doesn’t kick goals is a bit rich.

As I had said, O’Keefe has been out for a long time before last weeks first game back against a mature ruckman who Is much smaller than Xerri. OKeefe competed but got beaten. To me that selection is a dream and something that will happen when skull gets bigger and better …maybe this year, but skull isn’t in the xeriri league, especially not after being out injured for 2 months with only one vfl game under his belt.

I doubt O’Keefe will even be considered vs Xerri. Cru? Give us your SWOT on the Xerri match up,

I think Pitto is easily the best ruck for Xerri, but prefer Young TBH. More versatile than Pitto in case we need to change KPs forward or defense. Pitto is t a forward. Can’t wait to move past him next year…when Skull passes him. The sooner the better. Maybe that’s what we are all hoping.

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bondiblue wrote:
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yeah i know. if it's up to me, pittonet never plays in our beloved jersey again. but michael seems to love him.

i would like to see tdk permanently forward. saves his body against Xerri, who's an animal.

Tom just got worked over by Bailey Williams. He’ll be saving himself for a Callum Sinclair… or his brother. :lol:

I’d go with Skull, who is up and going, before Pittonet.



here you go bondi, you blabbering baboon.


Good work braithy. My apologies. I knew you could find proof if you had some. That’s a first.

I did get the shock of my life when you mentioned the possibility of Pitto selection.

I’m so use to you making stuff up, you don’t blame me do you?

I’ve had this discussion with cru prior to this. i questioned his definition of ‘up and going 20yo’ vs seasoned ruckman in general, in the pre match weagles thread. Like some people I don’t think he rate the value of ruckmen, as much as I do, but we agree $1M for a ruck who doesn’t kick goals is a bit rich.

As I had said, O’Keefe has been out for a long time before last weeks first game back against a mature ruckman who Is much smaller than Xerri. OKeefe competed but got beaten. To me that selection is a dream and something that will happen when skull gets bigger and better …maybe this year, but skull isn’t in the xeriri league, especially not after being out injured for 2 months with only one vfl game under his belt.

I doubt O’Keefe will even be considered vs Xerri. Cru? Give us your SWOT on the Xerri match up,

I think Pitto is easily the best ruck for Xerri, but prefer Young TBH. More versatile than Pitto in case we need to change KPs forward or defense. Pitto is t a forward. Can’t wait to move past him next year…when Skull passes him. The sooner the better. Maybe that’s what we are all hoping.



haha. holy shit old bean. i don't make stuff up. my memory isn't as good and i don't research. but i don't blatantly make shit up.


pitto has the iq of a witches hat, and moves slower than one. and that's on a very good day. the fact he's 6 weeks off with a calf, he'd be so underdone. i couldn't see him going 50% of gametime, and at that point, lets just bring the kid in.

young is too much of a cat to go with xerri. better off using durdin in the ruck over young. or motlop.


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bondiblue wrote:
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nah... keep silvagni at the back. he's building continuity there and looking good. the back 6 need to put games together.

i'd bring tdk as permanent forward/ ruck with charlie. and bring in a ruck. preferrably not pittonet, the other kid. but we all know michael loves him some pittonet, so...


Keep the backline playing together.

Bring in a ruck for ruck's sake vs Xerri, or a ruck who has the strength to match?

I'm guessing you want 20yo O'Keefe in to debut against Xerri?
You reckon that's a fair contest, just because your heavy bias against Pitto?
Cut your nose to spite your face?

Regardless of playing forward or not, TDK needs a decent chop out of he is going to give us value in the ruck.
TDK is playing like a $600K ruck losing against the bigger rucks thus far this year (Nankervis, Meek, English, Cameron), and now its Xerri time. I don't think O'Keefe is ready for this kind of baptism.

Its either Pitto vs Xerri or Young vs Xerri. Take your pick.


Yep, SOS to stay back.

Let Pitto smash into Xerri, no doubt Clarkson will have Xerri smash into TDK, knees and all.

Pitto for H
Elijah for Kemp
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