I'm thinking left back....

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Our footy IQ must be the worst in the comp.
Feels a lot like 2023. After building a solid year in 2022 on the back of contest and defence, Voss stepped up with another layer or two for 2023.
But the players couldn’t cope and looked lost. Just like now.
I think we started our run in 2023 when Voss just stripped it back again which was great.
But then, as opponents worked out how to stop our forward handball and run game out of the contest, we again tried to add additional layers in 2024.
And, although we were mostly winning early on, it was never convincing..
But then, after getting our pants pulled down by the Swans, we looked to have finally got it with convincing wins over the
GC, Port, Ess and Geelong. And we started on fire against GWS but the, as usual, we got ahead of ourselves and put the cue in the rack. Momentum gone. Belief gone. Charlie injured.
And then the bottom fell out. (And in my view we were playing v badly before we were hit by too many injuries which didn’t help but IMO wasn’t the main cause.)

So, I think our footy IQ is terrible. I can’t believe that just our players happen to all lack that footy IQ. As much as I’ve been a fan of Voss, I look over at Hawthorn and see how Mitchell has taught them how to play, how to make good decisions, the right attitude to have.

If we can’t beat the Eagles (convincingly) Voss will need to go. And then we need to work out ASAP whether a new game plan can put us back on track or whether we need to move on some of our biggest assets and get heavily into the draft before Tasmania sucks it all dry.

Brittain OUT
Pagan OUT
Ratten OUT
Malthouse OUT
Bolton OUT
Teague OUT

Yeah lets sack the coach, that'll fix it.

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Fact or just makeity-uppey!

In :- Boyd , Carol and Cotty if he is good.
Out:- Young, Doch, Cowan

Gov to the fwd line.

I don't blame Vossy for telling Binns the truth, but doubt he would have said that. Vosy would wait till end of the contract. Binns is lucky to be on an AFL list imo.

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Yep, Evans and Haynes is what Austin gave Vossy to play with. Do not get why Austin didnt leave an opening for MSD an went with Evans.

Haynes was decided on 6 months before any trade. I get that. We couldnt rely on Gov as a backman let alone intercept defender.

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I get the frustration with the show. So many sub plots within the game, including mental health victims returning to the field, and a VFL rep team training.

The VFL is 2 comps in one.

Stand alone teams have a higher salary cap than AFL, VFL sides.
They also play to win flags and the sponsorships that go with that.
Those stand alone teams attract fringe players who are on the cusp of an AFL berth, were missed or over looked in drafts, or developed into great mature candidates.
Southport have been a power house since the 80's.

Out VFL team is made of of kids. I'm not going to list the 17 under 21yo. But its a bunch of kids.

Not fair comparing our undeveloped kids straight out of the draft with mature bodied teams.

Our best VFL player, who was close to, and even warranted being AFL listed, Liam McMahon, was training with the VFL rep team. Take out Boyd, McKay, Hollands, and Evans, the rest were under 21yo. oh Yeah, Philips is 25yo and Ramshaw is 23yo.

I don't think its wise to write off the Campo twins, O'Farrell, O'Keefe and Carroll, and who knows, Lemmey is stilll young for a big bloke. But we are thin on AFL level talent, that's true.

Just goes to show our lack of real depth players, moreso than lacking quality kids imo

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Agree.

I mentioned post game, its the leaders who lack IQ. They should be making on field decisions, and instructing. They are closest to the contest, the talk amongst the opposition, and knowlwdge of the oppo planning is within ear shot of them.

Leaders

Weitering backline
Cripps midfield
Walsh midfield
Curnow forwardline

Where are they? What have they got to say on field? Why were we doing the same thing all 3rd quarter? The same thing Sidebottom laughed at 2 years ago?

Then there's Docherty, Haynes, Gov, Saad, Acres, Williams all around 30yo and have a bit of experience in the AFL caper. What say do they have onfield?

Curnow isnt a leader. He's an immature kid. That shot he took at goals from 60m and missed set the tone for the rest of the game. Every man for himself. . He showed no poise, composure or thought of connecting with free forwards closer to goal. Something we know we need to bring to our game. Ditto Crippa trying to take on the oppo rather than bringing an team mate in play who is in better position.

Its footy IQ that is the problem... and IQ, if it is there, is pushed aside for ego and selfishness.

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Aints have offered him $1.5mil a year.

Doesn't want to get hurt.

Waterman returning for the Eagles.

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From @chloekwilliams:

Training highlights:

- Harry, Lij joining the group, with those who played VFL on lighter duties
- Walsh running really well, Lord impressive linking play
- Young still training fwd
- Pitto, Cinc out there on lighter duties
- Curnow training inside: don’t stress, it’s Monday

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What about the second half of the session?

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

yeah they players didn't come out apparently.

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It's quite tough to work decide which direction to go in with this. Whilst I expect to win (in the sense that even if we only play one good half against the Eagles that almost seems like it will be enough), I'm not sure if the MC will really throw about the magnets or if they'll just make a few small tweaks...

I kinda feel that this could be just what we're after. When we were on a long losing streak two seasons ago, a few injury-enforced changes and an easy win against a weak Gold Coast side kicked us into gear and we went on a winning run that took us to finals. I'm hoping for the same this week.

Carroll - Weitering - Haynes
Boyd - Silvagni - Saad
Binns - Cripps - Walsh
E. Hollands - Curnow - Kemp
Durdin - McKay - White

TDK - Cerra - Hewett

INT from:

McGovern - surely he has to be dropped...
Cottrell - he's not on the injury list. He provides leg speed and run, but does he improve our composure with the ball?
Lord - do we need to play an extra inside mid?
Williams - is he injured? If not, he probably plays? He's not exactly been our worst...
Docherty - if you were to play Doc I'd like to see him go back to first principles and just play as a small defender, organising the backline and not doing much more than giving the ball to the running players.
Motlop - how many chances does he get to 'nearly' perform?
Fogarty - never stops working hard, but can you carry a defensive forward who never scores?
O. Hollands - he's basically never been dropped... he works his butt off, but maybe he needs a spell?
Acres - again, he never gets dropped... and he played better last week. But he's been average all year so far.
B & L Camporeale - I'd rather them get a solid block of footy in the twos.
Wilson - isn't banging the door down, but he does have something we lack - speed.
Moir - it was tough for all our forwards on the weekend, but he still seems best suited to being the sub.
Young - a versatile tall who we probably have to play for structural reasons...
Lemmy - ... unless we give Lemmy a run instead just to see how he goes.

And everyone else is either injured or nowhere near ready.

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Spot on Bondi. Different motivations for both groups.

You won’t find standalone teams selecting a guy for a half - and only a half - because the fitness staff are managing his loads.

That said, the point about salary cap is missing context. Each AFL-aligned club has as many as 22 players to pick from each game, most of whom are making more money than the entire TPP of their non-aligned opponents.

It needs to end.

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i can't help but feel the afl needs to re-jig the whole afl/ reserves thing. again.

kids playing against men, is a bit of a recipe. hard to develop your game, when the ball is only living up one end.

Still, Southport are on top of the ladder but all the other standalone teams are outside the 8. Bullants on the bottom. Our reserves are nowhere near Hawks & Geelong for example and there's no structural reason for it.

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This is what's happening to the eagles as well - all their kids in a stand alone WAFL team topped up by players who would otherwise be playing amateurs.

Freo at least are "aligned" with Peel Thunder - last year's WAFL premiers so their kids are somewhat shielded by decent WAFL players

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