R7: Carlton Vs Port Adelaide (Post Match Discussion)

rhino27 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:58 pm **Posts:** 4299

Was round 22 1987 the last time a kick after the final siren went our way?

Since then, we had Capper in 89, Ben Dixon Peter Burgoyne and now Gray kick goals after the siren leading us to lose. Have a feeling there may be others too.
Also had Sticks miss everything after the siren in 93.

strangeblue · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:13 pm

Peter Riccardi (touched by WIGGINS)

CK95 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:15 pm

The_Cranium wrote:

that hurts. So many moments and chances to ice the game. And we shit the bed once again n in a close one

Sunkist, Sudafed

sammywaslow · **Joined:** Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:48 pm **Posts:** 270

kingkerna wrote:

Overall I can't fault our effort. Apart from Harry that is, he shouldn't get out marked the way he was in the last quarter.

Umpires had an influence, if people can't see that it's not my concern.

I thought Weitering, Gibbons, Walsh and Plowman were our best.

The future is bright, no excuses not to play finals (plural).

Let's get to Perth where we have great support!

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Doesn’t matter where we play or how much support is at the ground, the umps just don’t like navy blue with a white monogram

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CK95 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:17 pm

rhino27 wrote:

Was round 22 1987 the last time a kick after the final siren went our way?

Since then, we had Capper in 89, Ben Dixon Peter Burgoyne and now Gray kick goals after the siren leading us to lose. Have a feeling there may be others too.
Also had Sticks miss everything after the siren in 93.

Robbie Warnock against Geelong a few years ago. Was that after the siren? Can't recall

jake_h03 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:19 pm

CK95 wrote:

rhino27 wrote:

Was round 22 1987 the last time a kick after the final siren went our way?

Since then, we had Capper in 89, Ben Dixon Peter Burgoyne and now Gray kick goals after the siren leading us to lose. Have a feeling there may be others too.
Also had Sticks miss everything after the siren in 93.

Robbie Warnock against Geelong a few years ago. Was that after the siren? Can't recall

Yeah the one he missed. Remember that vividly. Very few times I’ve been that angry after a game

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jake_h03 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:20 pm

Did Fev miss one after the siren against Hawthorn in 08?

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CK95 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:21 pm

I think that Fev one was in the last minute but not after the siren

99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3563

We BUTCHERED the ball so much in Q2 qnd Q3 transitioning from def to a) our half of the ground, b) fwd 50 and c) top of the square

That is the single biggest reason we lost. The first real target we hit with precision was on the 3QT siren (SPS with his left foot to Martin)

Also, fwds played dumb footy allowing Port defenders to cluster around Mckay and Casboult rather than spread them out

Really annoyed because I'm not confident at all that we will beat the Kangas...they'll puff their f#$%8 chests out next week and ragdoll us...wait and see...even without Ziebell and Zurhaar

tasboy · **Joined:** Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:16 pm **Posts:** 353

rhino27 wrote:

Was round 22 1987 the last time a kick after the final siren went our way?

Since then, we had Capper in 89, Ben Dixon Peter Burgoyne and now Gray kick goals after the siren leading us to lose. Have a feeling there may be others too.
Also had Sticks miss everything after the siren in 93.

Umm. 3 weeks ago vs Essendon**?

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 7565

99prelim wrote:

We BUTCHERED the ball so much in Q2 qnd Q3 transitioning from def to a) our half of the ground, b) fwd 50 and c) top of the square

That is the single biggest reason we lost. The first real target we hit with precision was on the 3QT siren (SPS with his left foot to Martin)

Also, fwds played dumb footy allowing Port defenders to cluster around Mckay and Casboult rather than spread them out

Really annoyed because I'm not confident at all that we will beat the Kangas...they'll puff their f#$%8 chests out next week and ragdoll us...wait and see...even without Ziebell and Zurhaar

Yep ! stuffed it up completely between the arcs.We didn't help ourselves.

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8236

rhino27 wrote:

Was round 22 1987 the last time a kick after the final siren went our way?

Since then, we had Capper in 89, Ben Dixon Peter Burgoyne and now Gray kick goals after the siren leading us to lose. Have a feeling there may be others too.
Also had Sticks miss everything after the siren in 93.

We got one our way in 1993 in Perth when Mainwaring hit the post after the siren from the boundary.

jake_h03 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:28 pm

Yeah we were unlucky not to win but in the end Port deserved it really. I felt they were on top of the contest for longer periods and we couldn’t hold it together when it mattered. From close games now we’ve won two and lost two. Personally I’m very happy the wins came against Geelong and the scum.

Hopefully we learn a lot from this loss and hopefully they come out breathing fire against North

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99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3563

Mickstar wrote:

99prelim wrote:

We BUTCHERED the ball so much in Q2 qnd Q3 transitioning from def to a) our half of the ground, b) fwd 50 and c) top of the square

That is the single biggest reason we lost. The first real target we hit with precision was on the 3QT siren (SPS with his left foot to Martin)

Also, fwds played dumb footy allowing Port defenders to cluster around Mckay and Casboult rather than spread them out

Really annoyed because I'm not confident at all that we will beat the Kangas...they'll puff their f#$%8 chests out next week and ragdoll us...wait and see...even without Ziebell and Zurhaar

Yep ! stuffed it up completely between the arcs.We didn't help ourselves.

Agreed...thats why I don't look at the umps, the casboult miss, the last 40s, Cunningham etc

99prelim · **Joined:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:01 pm **Posts:** 3563

jake_h03 wrote:

Yeah we were unlucky not to win but in the end Port deserved it really. I felt they were on top of the contest for longer periods and we couldn’t hold it together when it mattered. From close games now we’ve won two and lost two. Personally I’m very happy the wins came against Geelong and the scum.

Hopefully we learn a lot from this loss and hopefully they come out breathing fire against North

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With cleaner transitioning, I think we'd be seeing a 1-3 goal win by the Blues (that's factoring in things like momentum and scoreboard pressure)

CFC8795 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:34 pm

jim wrote:

I don't think i've been so disappointed in ages. I think it's because we are now a good side thus hurts our chances. The performance will please me later in the week in that again we have shown we can match it with the very best, just not now as it's a costly loss. If we were 17th I wouldn't have cared so much. Needed composure at the end. Suppose that's part of the journey, the maturing process as a side.

Wonder how this loss and shit losses like against Melbourne will hurt us at the business end of the year.

Same. I feel so disappointed. Really low. Maybe I got too high after the win against the Bullies.
Who used talk about not getting too high and not getting too low? :smoking:

Scotty12000 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:35 pm

Heartbreaker.

We screamed as hard as we could, shook Dixon off 3 goals. If he’d had the kick after the siren at that end, I guarantee we’d have made him choke.

We pushed first on the ladder til after the siren and were definitely the better team for most of the match, another tough lesson but proof we’re on the rise. Nothing less than a complete demolition of Norf next week will appease.

On the plus side as a QLD supporter I get to see Carlton for 3 weeks in a row next week, unheard of! On an even bigger plus side, my girlfriend saw her very first AFL game today and safe to say she is a convert. And as we all know, everyone looks better in navy blue :smoking:

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

So much to like, so much to curse.

In years past we'd have folded twice in that first half, midway through both quarters. Signs of maturity.

I felt Port should have put us away with 3 or 4 mins left. They didn't, and we let them off the hook with some poor decision making. Signs of immaturity.

All in all, a cracking effort. No need to throw the baby out with the bath water. Onwards and upwards. The test is how we respond next week.

camel · **Posted:** Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:39 pm

GMCbris wrote:

they f&^%ing carried on like they won the grand final

Pissed me off

We'd have done the same if Betts, for example, kicked a goal after the siren to win the game.

Heat of the moment thing, perfectly acceptable under the circumstances.

We had our chances to win, so did they.

I know we need to move on from the honourable loss stuff, but that's as an acceptable honourable loss as you can have I reckon. Plenty to learn from and improve on, but also plenty of positives to build on.

frank dardew · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:38 pm **Posts:** 7640

Great game yes lost the game but good effort and we are improving
Last 10 mins lost composure structure and bad start
However a team performance that would have beaten a number of other teams
Playing a good brand of football
Pressure packed game against good opposition
Weitering Newnes Gibbons Plowman docherty Cripps SPS Walsh all good
Down this week Jones Pittonet Cunningham Levi Gov
Eddie started well faded a bit
Kennedy and Setters almost games
Boys will learn a lot from the game
Must destroy North next week

R7: Carlton Vs Port Adelaide (Post Match Discussion)

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