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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:05 am 
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Was at the game tonight. Full credit to the Carlton fans, that was the loudest I've heard a Carlton crowd in a long time.

I loved Newman's game, he'll be a terrific pick up. Setterfield looks a ripper. Not bad for a bloke playing his third game. Cripps was Cripps, lead from the front as always. I liked the work of Dow, Walsh, Cunningham and Fisher. Fisher ended with the most clearances on the ground. Harry has a beautiful set of hands. There is certainly a bright future there with these guys. I liked the role Murphy played and thought he had a decent game.

Garlett should be dropped on that performance. Was barely sighted and has no hunger for the contest. Even had the opportunity to shepherd at one stage and avoided contact. Shocking game from Charlie, probably the worst game he has played. Hopefully its just a dip in form and nothing else. Fasolo looked underdone, may be better for the run? Gibbons tried hard but struggled, hopefully he can pick up the pace of the game.

Looking forward to seeing how they go against Port next week. Port lost Polec and Wingard and will be without Wines and Dixon amongst others so we live in hope.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:23 am 
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Just home from the game. After one of the stinkiest first quarters I have seen, we had plenty of opportunities to put put ourselves in the game. We certainly didn’t drop our bundle. Lots to like from all the youngsters.

Weitering terrific. Fantastic.
Jones was actually very good.
McKay did what he could given the opportunities
Garlett and Murphy had shockers.

Too bad we didn’t realise there was a game on until the second quarter.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:41 am 
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toddkurnski wrote:
Just home from the game. After one of the stinkiest first quarters I have seen, we had plenty of opportunities to put put ourselves in the game. We certainly didn’t drop our bundle. Lots to like from all the youngsters.

Weitering terrific. Fantastic.
Jones was actually very good.
McKay did what he could given the opportunities
Garlett and Murphy had shockers.

Too bad we didn’t realise there was a game on until the second quarter.
Which Murphy had a shocker???

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:48 am 
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moshe25 wrote:
toddkurnski wrote:
Just home from the game. After one of the stinkiest first quarters I have seen, we had plenty of opportunities to put put ourselves in the game. We certainly didn’t drop our bundle. Lots to like from all the youngsters.

Weitering terrific. Fantastic.
Jones was actually very good.
McKay did what he could given the opportunities
Garlett and Murphy had shockers.

Too bad we didn’t realise there was a game on until the second quarter.
Which Murphy had a shocker???

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So many contests where he arrived but was unable to impact. Just observing, no stats. He just didn’t have the physical attributes tonight to split a contest or lock it in. Just my opinion.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:02 am 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Everyone has mentioned players. I am going to mention the game plan.

Yes I was at the game and the number of times there were free players either on the opposite side or in the middle of the ground I lost count of.

Instead the ball was bombed long to a pack in the forward line which is something we have been doing for years with a singular lack of success. This played right into the tiges hands with their manical streaming downfield forward of the ball style of play.

You can forgive the brains trust in the coaches box for not working it out in the 1st quarter but after that ...

I heard BBs press conference and he can go on all he wants about 4 minutes in the 1st quarter and 3 minutes in the last or whatever but look in the mirror BB.

The tiges won due to a superior game plan being implemented more effectively.
Exactly! You.can have a team full of good players but if the game plan doesn't function in modern footy then you win almost nothing. Decent side, 4th year, no excuse.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:06 am 
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Taff wrote:
grrofunger wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
Everyone has mentioned players. I am going to mention the game plan.

Yes I was at the game and the number of times there were free players either on the opposite side or in the middle of the ground I lost count of.

Instead the ball was bombed long to a pack in the forward line which is something we have been doing for years with a singular lack of success. This played right into the tiges hands with their manical streaming downfield forward of the ball style of play.

You can forgive the brains trust in the coaches box for not working it out in the 1st quarter but after that ...

I heard BBs press conference and he can go on all he wants about 4 minutes in the 1st quarter and 3 minutes in the last or whatever but look in the mirror BB.

The tiges won due to a superior game plan being implemented more effectively.


It was the same shit we were practicing (rather poorly) at training last Saturday , we dont move the ball well at all.


No game plan can work if you can't hit targets consistently. Too many time the ball is handballed or kicked to the feet or over the head.
Targets are much easier to hit if you have a good, functioning game plan as there is space for the.player to run into. If you get that right you can cover alot for poor skills against most but the very best.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:33 am 
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Tigers sure know how to capitalise on a turnover - they run it well and boom the goals come.
We are still learning where our teammates are when we run hard.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:19 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:27 am 
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jim wrote:
After 4 years we still have no idea how to get a ball quickly and efficiently into the f50. We have a half decent side, no excuse. That's the elephant in the room right now. That part of our game has not progressed.


Our inability to score kills us

We get enough possession to remain competitive in games but lack a killer instinct

Not sure whether it's due to youth, lack of belief or Bolton's game plan

Probably a combination of all the above


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:20 am 
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Setterfield has played 3 games (is that right?) and Walsh 1.
They will be guns!!!!!!!!
Walsh needs to work on his kicking efficiency, but he looked so mature out there!
Setterfield really exceeded my expectations.
Gibbons flashed in and out, but didn't impact the game as much as I'd hoped he would - had a chance to sneak a goal which would have really helped.
Fasolo did what you would expect... Not bad considering his interrupted preseason.
Dow was up and down, but still decent signs.
Weitering looked so much more confident than last year, good signs.
McGovern suffered from the poor delivery, but he looked a step off to me... May not be 100% yet.
Garlett... Peanuts.
SPS starting to be a real worry... Not sure if this coaching group Knows how to crack the puzzle and unleash his talent? Will seen how his year unfolds, but could be a trade option.
Newman overall very solid, really filled a need.
After the first quarter mckay really looked dangerous! Great signs!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:23 am 
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The only thing that frustrated me last night were the kick-ins. The dinky little kick into the pocket against the boundary line and then long down the line. We rarely used the new rule to run out of the goal square and penetrate.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:31 am 
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Just read the posts leading up to here.
Some very astute observations, none more so, than the fact we played wide to a contest for two and a half quarters, the two and a half we lost.
Playing so close to the boundary cost us nine (yes, folks, 9) out of bounds on the full frees. Apart from that, we hardly took a contested mark down the line anyway with the notable exception of MacKay who took a couple of good ones. I know Mexico is a long way away and players probably couldn't hear my screams to kick it to someone in the corridor making space but it happened on multiple occasions. When we looked inside and moved the ball quickly, the goals came. The play of the night was the McGovern mark and handball that opened up the entire corridor from half back. It was the only time we did that from a defensive half mark for the entire game.
Our ball handling and general skills were way behind Richmond's. We over used handball a LOT.
Our F50 entries looked eerily similar to those from the past several years and until the forwards can get some clean service, we will struggle to kick a winning score.
Garlett is being played way out of position. He is not a defensive player, he likes to run and carry. He is lost playing a structured game where he has to kick it to a contest down the line. He did make one good break where he had multiple possessions running the lines but then I think he miskicked it. He should be played on the wing or HFF where he can show his flair. Or drop him.
Enough has been said about Charlie.
Fasolo and Gibbons were average.
Walsh and Setters will play a lot of good footy for us.
Get Ed Curnow back in the middle. He can't kick over a jam tin.
Cripps is going to shape the competition. Had the better of Dusty.
Fisher got a lot of stats but about ten of his kicks went less than two metres along the ground. At least he gets it.
If we keep missing easy shots at goal we will make life hard for ourselves. Not sure how Harry can kick one from the intersection of the F50 and the boundary and then miss one the little leaguers would have kicked.
Congrats to Murphy.

I posted before the game that the most important thing was to stay in touch early to give ourselves a shot but that first quarter was horrible. Well done for not lying down. That's a plus.

Despite it all, I think we have made progress. Teams will look at that and know they can't just pencil in the four points.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:42 am 
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blah blah blah

glass half full here...

still fielded 9-10 guys under 21. 6 guys that made their debut. a forward line full of first time smalls along with McGovern...
lets hope the majority of this group get to string the next 8-10 games together because i think we'll see a massive spike in the 2nd half of the year if they do


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:56 am 
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Good for 2.5 Qs and terrible for the rest. Big H is a monster and moves well for a 203cm guy. Charlie is AWOL at the moment....if he had done anything we could have threatened them I reckon.

Crippa, Fish great. Samo ok but this is the year he needs to assert himself and take the game in more. Gibbons didn’t handle the heat at all and won’t play much if he keeps that up sadly. Desperately need quick crumbing/defensive fess to lock the ball in and pressure back lines.

Hard to be confident in the side until they win games.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 6:57 am 
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So who will be most stiff to miss out on an RS nom this week?

Walsh or Setterfield?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:02 am 
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Just got a text from my daughter saying her husband isn't happy with Fasolo wearing David Glascott's number.
I replied that I can go back further, Bryan Quirk !
But, I wouldn't write Fasolo off yet, just put a question mark of his back instead of a number.

Pretty sure she thinks her old man is nuts.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:05 am 
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Also, while I don’t wish serious injury on anyone, the reaction to Rance’s potential ACL is over the top. It’s like everyone’s in mourning.

Bloody good player for sure, but so far from “BEST FB EVARRRR!” it’s not funny. It’s pretty telling that Richmond’s defence tightened up after he went off, and the slobbering adulation he receives does a disservice to Astbury and Grimes, who are the real pillars back there.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:06 am 
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doofdoof wrote:
blah blah blah

glass half full here...

still fielded 9-10 guys under 21. 6 guys that made their debut. a forward line full of first time smalls along with McGovern...
lets hope the majority of this group get to string the next 8-10 games together because i think we'll see a massive spike in the 2nd half of the year if they do


spot on. you don't throw a new team on the park like that and expect them to gel from the get go.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:21 am 
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murraycray wrote:
Just got a text from my daughter saying her husband isn't happy with Fasolo wearing David Glascott's number.
I replied that I can go back further, Bryan Quirk !
But, I wouldn't write Fasolo off yet, just put a question mark of his back instead of a number.

Pretty sure she thinks her old man is nuts.



Not so much the number on the back it’s note the emblem on the front I have a problem with him wearing.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 7:23 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
So who will be most stiff to miss out on an RS nom this week?

Walsh or Setterfield?


Not trying to recycle that old trope - but is Setterfield even eligible? He's 21 already isn't he?

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