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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:39 pm 
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Loved casboult's game...


He's perfect....

The ineffectual forward for the ineffectual forward plan.

He fit's like a finger in a bum.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:41 pm 
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NavyIrish wrote:
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A more competitive performance.
Cripps played well, but needs to finish in front of the big sticks.
Byrne was great when he came on. Keep playing him.
Armfield gives us plenty. I wasn't sure about his selection, but he gives us genuine speed and attack on the footy and the man with the footy.
Henderson was better. When we have some free flowing movement he looks great.
Wood stepped up after being embarrassed last week.

Our disposal is disappointing, as is our decision making off half back and into the forward 50.
Dominated the clearances but clearly get beaten on the outside and in space.
Missing Yarran next week will hurt and I hope Gibbs doesn't get cited for his bump on Goddard.

Lastly, whilst not a spectacular game, at least Murphy stepped up somewhat.


Do you reckon Murphy improved? Was viewing the game from lvl 1 Ponsford so happy to be proven wrong but I can only remember him getting a few cheap positions & not much else.

What I saw of Gibbs was that he was only making some kind of effort for the sake of it, too many times he just jogged from play to play.

Simmo was all heart, why is this man not our captain!!!!! :banghead:


I wasn't there live, so your judgement is likely better than mine. I thought he got involved in the game more and 30 touches shows he was at least putting himself in good positions a but more often.

I don't think he set the world on fire, but it was progress.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:42 pm 
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Still no Carlton player to kick more than 2 goals in a game this season

This is going well

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:42 pm 
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Yes as bad as rowe and casboult are they're not a patch on watto.
The draft selections reflect that

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:43 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Loved casboult's game...


was he playing today synners?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:47 pm 
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Casboult belongs in a lower grade of football unfortunately. The money paid to sav is a waste.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:48 pm 
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Surprising that some people are praising Wood's effort. I only saw the second half and we were absolutely SMASHED in the centre square, as has been the case every game this year. Not all the fault of Wood though. If we had broken even and kicked straight we would have won. I think that it is brain dead logic to make a first gamer the sub. To go on, then pick up the tempo of the game and make an impact in your first game is a ridiculous ask. Thankfully the young Irishman did really well. Knowing our selection morons he will probably get dropped next week. If Malthouse has got half a brain he needs to stop coaching for his next contract and start coaching for the future of the Carlton Football Club. To do that he needs to dump the dead wood like Carratzo and Ellard , who are absolute hackers with zero future and inject some youth with a future, like Buckley, Broekhurst and Whiley.
I would not drop any of the forwards. When you are getting smashed at the stopages and the defenders are constantly fighting to rebound, all that our forwards are getting is long bombs to mark in a pack. Forget about marking on a fast lead, or even a one on one. The forward delivery is nearly always a hopeful hack forward or a long bomb. The boys showed some heart and spirit in the last quarter, now the coach and selectors need to do the same, a well as our leaders in Murphy, Judd and Gibbs, all of whom have been pretty ordinary to date.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:49 pm 
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verbs wrote:
Murphy, after a slow start, was easily our best.



Code for 'got a few cheap kicks after the game was lost'


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:50 pm 
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If any one here thinks Carrazzo, Ellard and Jones aren't the first names on the chopping block, I give up.

Ellard was too slow and played like a frustrated man. Carrazzo was regularly lumbering along like he'd pulled his calf and Jones faded in and out more than a shitty pub DJ.

After that, play a zone structure so we're not so not every turn over is a goal, and so we actually feel like running when we get the ball back...


Depends if they keep Malty.
He'd never admit he made a poor recruiting choice with Jones.
I heard MLJ today saying recruiting should be done in conjunction with the coach.

Jones is a pretty astute trade, but right now he's not putting enough into each game. This week was better than last week, but he's surely run out of chances.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:51 pm 
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Asp wrote:
Surprising that some people are praising Wood's effort. I only saw the second half and we were absolutely SMASHED in the centre square, as has been the case every game this year. Not all the fault of Wood though. If we had broken even and kicked straight we would have won. I think that it is brain dead logic to make a first gamer the sub. To go on, then pick up the tempo of the game and make an impact in your first game is a ridiculous ask. Thankfully the young Irishman did really well. Knowing our selection morons he will probably get dropped next week. If Malthouse has got half a brain he needs to stop coaching for his next contract and start coaching for the future of the Carlton Football Club. To do that he needs to dump the dead wood like Carratzo and Ellard , who are absolute hackers with zero future and inject some youth with a future, like Buckley, Broekhurst and Whiley.
I would not drop any of the forwards. When you are getting smashed at the stopages and the defenders are constantly fighting to rebound, all that our forwards are getting is long bombs to mark in a pack. Forget about marking on a fast lead, or even a one on one. The forward delivery is nearly always a hopeful hack forward or a long bomb. The boys showed some heart and spirit in the last quarter, now the coach and selectors need to do the same, a well as our leaders in Murphy, Judd and Gibbs, all of whom have been pretty ordinary to date.



Murphy has been been dead wood with trade potential for years... What do we do? Make him captain


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:53 pm 
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To think we almost turned it around in about 20 minutes of playing like we wanted to win in the last quarter.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Asp wrote:
Surprising that some people are praising Wood's effort. I only saw the second half and we were absolutely SMASHED in the centre square, as has been the case every game this year. Not all the fault of Wood though. If we had broken even and kicked straight we would have won.


We won the clearances 53-30 and Wood was the main reason for that.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Casboult belongs in a lower grade of football unfortunately. The money paid to sav is a waste.



Plenty of other players that missed set shots that Rocca could work with.

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Rocco Iguana wrote:
To think we almost turned it around in about 20 minutes of playing like we wanted to win in the last quarter.

No the game was over at 3/4 time. Essendon* had already been supplied their downers for the evening


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:02 pm 
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Why blame Jones? The delivery to the forward line is shithouse. No one can drop it in front of a leading forward. Has been shit for years. No patience, no forward line pressure, cause we kick it straight to the opposition. We insist on playing around the boundary line, while the opposition go straight down the middle. Every single week, no wonder we are so predictable. Look no further to our last quarter, to see a bit of how we can play when we take the game on.


This is Malthouse game plan, slow movement. Has taken the flair out of players.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:08 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Coach Mick Malthouse is speaking to the media. Live tweets to follow.

Malthouse: "We had enough of the football to put some heat on the scoreboard, but we didn't capitalise."
Malthouse: "I thought the boys were honest."
Malthouse: "We need to look at our clearance structure. We went against our system going into forward 50 four or five times."

"We need to look at our clearance structure" ???? We have been getting SMASHED in clearances in every game and now we finally need to look at it ????? What have we got on our highly paid coaching panel - sleeping f-ing beauties ?
"We went against our system" ????? What system ? I couldn't see any and haven't seen any all year. At nearly every stoppage we lose and it is killing us. If there is a system in place scrap it and try something else because it is dog shit.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:12 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
NavyIrish wrote:
cecil89 wrote:
A more competitive performance.
Cripps played well, but needs to finish in front of the big sticks.
Byrne was great when he came on. Keep playing him.
Armfield gives us plenty. I wasn't sure about his selection, but he gives us genuine speed and attack on the footy and the man with the footy.
Henderson was better. When we have some free flowing movement he looks great.
Wood stepped up after being embarrassed last week.

Our disposal is disappointing, as is our decision making off half back and into the forward 50.
Dominated the clearances but clearly get beaten on the outside and in space.
Missing Yarran next week will hurt and I hope Gibbs doesn't get cited for his bump on Goddard.

Lastly, whilst not a spectacular game, at least Murphy stepped up somewhat.


Do you reckon Murphy improved? Was viewing the game from lvl 1 Ponsford so happy to be proven wrong but I can only remember him getting a few cheap positions & not much else.

What I saw of Gibbs was that he was only making some kind of effort for the sake of it, too many times he just jogged from play to play.

Simmo was all heart, why is this man not our captain!!!!! :banghead:


I wasn't there live, so your judgement is likely better than mine. I thought he got involved in the game more and 30 touches shows he was at least putting himself in good positions a but more often.

I don't think he set the world on fire, but it was progress.


I didn't realise he had 30 touches, that is good going in fairness. I'll have to re watch it again, still hoping we get our Murph circa 2011 back.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:17 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Asp wrote:
Surprising that some people are praising Wood's effort. I only saw the second half and we were absolutely SMASHED in the centre square, as has been the case every game this year. Not all the fault of Wood though. If we had broken even and kicked straight we would have won.


We won the clearances 53-30 and Wood was the main reason for that.

Thanks for the stat. I must have been watching a different game. We must have done really well in the first half then, despite the scoreboard and I was only referring to the centre square and there weren't 83 contests there.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:19 pm 
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Rocco Iguana wrote:
To think we almost turned it around in about 20 minutes of playing like we wanted to win in the last quarter.

Couldnt believe we got so close and shouldve pinched it . How many games in last couple os yeras we lost because of bad kicking. So many tiday so easy?
But more frystrating is seeing empty fwd 50 when we storm forward. Even more seeing ellard at CHF against two tall bombers"..........

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 6:20 pm 
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Not enough run and class, disposal efficiency not high enough, today we were outclassed by a middle of the road team who put the cue in the rack after their big win last week.

Season effectively over after round three is a disaster for the club.


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