Yep, a terrific way to really evaluate which players are up to it.

Docherty, murph, Gibbs, Casboult and Henderson showed spirit.
Rowe/Jamo really battled but not many defenders could stop such an onslaught.
The older brigade in Judd/Simpson tried but can't escape Father Time (still better than majority of the list)

Perfect game to show the deadwood.

Funny how everyone was praising Laidler, as he supposedly had a massive impact. Yet Everitt who didn't play well wasn't used as a comparison - easy to look better in a dominant team.
Everitt would have looked pretty good running around for the swans tonight. I bet the same couldn't have been said of Laidler if he was on buddy/Reid/Goodes for the blues tonight

We have a club that should always make the 8, bottom end of it admittedly. Given we've played 4 of the last 5 finals series that's a fair summary. As far as a coach goes, obviously an outstanding career but won't coach this team to their strengths instead coaching to his own theories. Those theories don't work in our club.

Biggest problem is that we are lazy, have a poor work ethic, poor culture and poor attitude. 4 coaches have had a go at sorting those problems since 2001 and the closest to being remotely successful was Ratts. Even then those traits often popped up.

Then we can talk about our drafting, another reason why we vary between where we are now and the bottom regions of the 8. No excuse for a lack of work ethic and attitude though.

This club can put on bursts of scintillating football, showing they are capable. That's often when we are 5 goals behind where we produce a sudden run of goals and hit the lead 15 minutes later. Then we can play absolute lazy, poor crap too, like the 3rd qtr tonight.

We are never safe when 5 goals in front and never out of it when 5 goals behind.

Sadly, quite a few do!!!

After every loss, we talk about all the quality opposition players who destroyed us. Tonight it was Buddy, Kennedy, Parker, McVeigh et al.

Why is nobody on this site talking up the coach John Longmire?

Surely the win has nothing at all to do with their highly skilled players. If the coach is second rate when a team lose, surely it's the coach who is a genius when they win

Hopefully our next coach will turn Warnock into Polly Farmer, Graham into Sam Mitchell, Walker into Andrew McLeod, Bell into Luke Hodge and Ellard into Jamie Elliot. Just wait and see.

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Lets move to the state of the list... ive been saying its shit for years and i have been clling out our profling .....

but i might be wrong....

who thinks this is a pretty good list ...?

who thinks this is a good midfield???

who thinks we have plenty of depth?

and who thinks he or she are satisfied with our stock of talls???

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That's the problem!

The club champion with little experience or the big name whose previous employer saw him as a problem.

The club wouldn't go and interview a David Noble, Leigh Tudor, John Blakey - too good for Carlton!

No thought at all.

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u-n-i-v-e-r-s-a-l-l-y- s-h-i-t-e-

yeah.

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Just the fact though that Laidler is considered good enough to get a game in a possible/probable premiership side, when he couldn't get one with us. Thus means the Swans have improved him where we couldn't. Probably have a few players that'd do surprisingly well with other clubs. Says alot about us.

Well Malthouse thought it was a pretty good list ...

And Malthouse thought that Swanny was the best in the business ... and he thought that Sticks was an excellent CEO .... and we know that Dr Strangelove is never wrong.

Lets face it ... the club has gone backwards at a million miles an hour since Tricky Micky took over ... its no surprise to those who are willing to take of their rose colored glasses.

Meanwhile ... we burn.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

In the words of the great Sam Newman,we are a lot like Stonehenge.
We are old ,don't move much and nobody knows why we are out there!

the easy thing is this....

to believe that if we had the right coach.... listen to this carefully.....

if we can all believe that we had the right coach now... in this situation he would just use a special silver bullet and ressurect our flagging fortunes

thats the cretylus argument....

that one guy can come in (say hinkley) and wave his magic wand.. and all of a sudden... these players will be morphed into all australian contenders

does anybody believe we are a possibility to do this with a new coach???

granted we do have a few players unfit and they can improve with operations and rest.... but im talking about next week.. with what we have in the ressies

anybody believe that???
look i think.. one of the problems we have is denial.....

denial that our once mighty club has been run and ground into the dirt over a long period of time.. and its just simple to blame mick

someone said whats shane doing still at the club?
shane doesnt influence the fortunes of this club mate... he holds up blackboards.....
no matter who does that job ... it dosnt change a thing

what will change things is a complete overhaul and a few years

were not doing a port.... we have nothing coming through

too many busts with first round .. second rounders and third rounders....

the cupboard is bare

the club is crippled... and has been for a long time

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There is no other way of dissecting Carlton's performance tonight, but to say they were pathetic.

It is obvious that they are lacking class players?.....Judd is.....Gibbs and Murphy are supposedly class players.....so.....is it a lack of direction or inspiration or a combination of a lack of good players (recruitment) or a lack of good Coaching from the Coaching Panel?

Is the Carlton Football Club looking at this as we are?

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I just love the way people use those little laughing faces in lieu of logic. They mean so much to the sender and so little to the intended target. Because they were created for people who need them.
Sorry, I thought this was a Sydney/Carlton post game thread.
I commented at the tome on the Melbourne and GS threads. If you can be bothered looking you'd see that.
If you want to exclude Sydney from the Carlton vs Sydney post game thread, perhaps you should go to the Carlton shit recruiting thread or the carlton shit coaching thread or the Carlton shit committee thread.
Don't pretend Sydney doesn't exist.
Don't pretend they aren't one game clear on top.
Don't pretend they picked up Franklin for a million a year when they already had Tippett on $900k and even the FL had to conduct an investigation into their TPP, which resulted in their changing the cola under pressure from the other clubs..
Don't pretend the AFL isn't artificially controlling this market to make sure Sydney TVs are turned on.
Don't pretend the other clubs haven't screamed blue murder and finally had the cola scrapped despite the AFL kicking and screaming and saying they will keep it but in another form and administered by them
Don't pretend that the cost of living isn't higher in Perth than in Sydney and yet the two WA based clubs get no assistance at all. NOT ONE CENT!

OK, we have recruited badly.
We haven't had any gun father/sons of late
We have had a shit boys club committee
Malthouse is a has been and we should have kept ratten or found someone else. Richardson was being bandied about a lot but he looks like being a good assistant coach and nothing more.
I concede all that but you can't just take money out of the equation.
Our glory years were before the cap when money wasn't an issue. So we won and we won. Then Brisbane, now Sydney and soon GWS and the Suns will be dong it. Winning, that is.
Hawthorn is the only club to buck this trend. Why? because they had good recruiting and behind the scenes staff from kennett down and because players who want to change clubs want to play there. But even Hawthorn with all its might and culture won't beat Sydney.
Why?
Because Sydney was able to just go out and buy the best player in the competition from them. That was after going out the year before and buying the second best forward in the competition on massive money. Hawthorn would have kept Franklin had they been able to match the offer but they couldn't.

The COLA was never intended to be an addendum to the TPP. So why is it? Because Sydney has allowed it to be and so has the AFL. Until 2016. The Swans just put 9 on to every player's salar and call it a COLA adjustment. So Buddy gets a cool 100k extra. Tippett gets a cool 90k extra. Why does someone on 900k a year need a cost of living leg up? There are people iving in Sydney who earn less than that aren't there?
It's a joke.
The other clubs think it's a joke and have finally pressured the AFL into doing something.
You, however, don't think it is an issue.

The only one marching in step.

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We have a great coach, couldn't get a win against Melbourne or GWS
We have a great coach, he got us Dale Thomas
We have a great coach, he let Eddie Betts go
We have a great coach, he loves players like Ellard and Curnow.

Malthouse: "That third quarter is reflective of our year. Players need to start arresting these lapses in concentration."
Malthouse: "I thought Jamison and Rowe did a good job in that first half, but they were helped by blokes up the field."
Malthouse: "The moment that support stopped, we were outclassed. They are a very, very good football side."
Malthouse: "Nobody is on the outer. We're working with all of our players. Just because a bloke is playing, doesn't mean he is on the outer"
Malthouse: "We've identified the areas we need to work on. There's nothing wrong with our attitude. The boys have a crack."

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and this is the bit where i will say.. not can say.. but ill tell u

I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

everybody around the club was crap at a very crucial point of time.. a time where we were on our knees and the AFL was kind enough to help us slingshot back up with priority picks.. (were not seeing those again so we blew it)

But ..... "were carlton @#$%&! the rest"
and

"were going to bring back the carlton swagger"

we didnt even have a clue ... people who were employed and paid hundreds of thousands of dollars had no clue what players we needed to bolt together a team with any sustainability

and believe me when i tell u... only menzel will be a gun (if he wants to stay)... the rest arent the right types even from our rogers drafting...

this club doesnt have a clue

temay a back pocket player with a second rounder?
Watson?
bootsma gone
lucas gone

and ill put the kiss of death on cripps too.. he wasnt the right profile with a FIRST ROUNDER

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It's so easy to blame the coach. Average supporters always do. I find it quite amusing. Things are a bit more complicated..... and the difference between a good performance and a thrashing is not that great. Look at second and third qrt today.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

Wish they'd listened to me 5 years ago instead of @#$%&! around with a Brock McLean deal...

...but this is just the thing. Posting your thoughts/grievances on a forum doesn't achieve much.

yeah i agree eddie should have stayed
waite and carrazzo should have been moved on
judd should have been on 350

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People blaming the coach are narrow minded. The club has been poor for a long time and the recruiting and list management pathetic.

We have been a mess for more than a decade.

At least give Malthouse the chance to build his own list then judge him. The errors, lack of talent and decision making going on at the moment have little to do with coaching.

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...and no Thomas?

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