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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:43 am 
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he cant "strike"... he either gets invited on or not.. and he either accepts or not

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:05 am 
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Tom is articulate, smart and is media savy. Would he be able to bring fresh blood on board with him? Would he be able to control those that are currently contributing heavily to the club financially, but in other respects need to be moved on?
It worries me that we will replace sticks with another patsy. Tom is no patsy.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:30 am 
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Personally i dont have a problem with Tom as son of Jack.
But i do wanna know more about his philosophies to this club.
We are about to have a new president whos name i cant promounce... i try to mouth it but i cant.
I dont really care about that....

but he has been appointed by the Pratts and the Mathiesons.. and yet none of us know anything of his philosophies going forward... hes unknown in every way.
But the Pratts and Mathiesons think hes the one...
the rest of us dont know shit...
i find that disturbing..

and when he talks to us.. i know he will say he wants Carlton back up where it belongs.
But ill still not know anythng about his philosophies in change for this club.

People wanna know why i bag stuff....!!!...

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:50 am 
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Sins of the father eh?

I hate his father, but there's a large section of the Carlton supporting public who still love him.

Didn't D Pratt get convicted of something shady AND have one or more mistresses about the place AND have an illegitimate child.

Naturally we view his relatives, currently overseeing the club circling the bowl like a rather large nard, in the same light.



..we're all bums.. ....we point the fingër at everyone while we shine and polish our victim mentality.. ..media out to get us, afl out to get us, while we have been for a very long time now a morally bankrupt club.. ....we have portrait of Pratt on the board room wall, we name our B&F after Nicholls.... ..we snuggle up to the head of our high horse in bed..

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:28 am 
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More than happy to have Tom as President if it can happen.

Smart, business savvy and a media performer. Some other successful Presidents have similar backgrounds. :wink:

The key is he really needs to want to do it, is committed, has a plan and has full support of the board. If he does he could well be what we need. A fresh set of eyes.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:30 am 
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More than happy to have Tom as President if it can happen.

Smart, business savvy and a media performer. Some other successful Presidents have similar backgrounds. :wink:

The key is he really needs to want to do it, is committed, has a plan and has full support of the board. If he does he could well be what we need. A fresh set of eyes.

What are his philosophies to bring us back up?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:50 am 
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I wouldn't judge Tom on his dads legacy. That very unfair.

If you read article properly, Tom states he's not interested, but will watch closely and see how things unfold in the next few weeks. That to me is composure. Something that's a rare commodity at board level, particularly at Carlton.

He will not declare his hand publicly as others have, he may strike behind closed doors, which may or may not be successful. Keep it out of the media!!!

Lets wait and see.


Agree with this. I liked the approach he was taking to things, i.e refusing to be reactionary, waiting and seeing but on the other hand, if there is seemingly nothing being done, I think he left the door open on running.

Waiting and seeing is not being passive. There is a time for everything and making the right judgment call at the right time is critical.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:03 am 
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I want to hear what LoGiudice etc have to say about the Carlton quick fix philosophy - do they recognise the competition has changed since the 80s? That you can't buy your way to success?

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but he has been appointed by the Pratts and the Mathiesons.. and yet none of us know anything of his philosophies going forward... hes unknown in every way.
But the Pratts and Mathiesons think hes the one...
the rest of us dont know shit...
i find that disturbing..


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Come on MichaelJezz! Tell us what's really happening.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:09 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Personally i dont have a problem with Tom as son of Jack.
But i do wanna know more about his philosophies to this club.
We are about to have a new president whos name i cant promounce... i try to mouth it but i cant.
I dont really care about that....



Pronounced "Lo-Jew-De-Jee".

If anyone can give me his business and education profile I'd be most grateful. I know they're an Italian family with long links to the inner suburbs, but that's about it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:10 am 
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Blues Clues wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Personally i dont have a problem with Tom as son of Jack.
But i do wanna know more about his philosophies to this club.
We are about to have a new president whos name i cant promounce... i try to mouth it but i cant.
I dont really care about that....



Pronounced "Lo-Jew-De-Jee".

If anyone can give me his business and education profile I'd be most grateful. I know they're an Italian family with long links to the inner suburbs, but that's about it.


http://au.linkedin.com/pub/mark-logiudice/66/923/466

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:14 am 
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Effes wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Personally i dont have a problem with Tom as son of Jack.
But i do wanna know more about his philosophies to this club.
We are about to have a new president whos name i cant promounce... i try to mouth it but i cant.
I dont really care about that....



Pronounced "Lo-Jew-De-Jee".

If anyone can give me his business and education profile I'd be most grateful. I know they're an Italian family with long links to the inner suburbs, but that's about it.


http://au.linkedin.com/pub/mark-logiudice/66/923/466


Grazie, Effes.

Pretty impressed, like his background in the fruit industry too, maybe our Frank Costa? :smile:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:14 am 
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This has been brewing for a while. I do hear his last name is causing him issues otherwise he would have been on the board a while ago. Supporters might not be happy. Time will tell if it happens.

Tom is well connected at Carlton and in the media and is someone who can become president without rocking the boat too much if the supporters will accept him. I hope he does become president. We know he hurts like us when the blues lose. Anyone who I think will put the club before their own interests will get my support all the time. Tom is true navy blue - he had no choice :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:17 am 
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Blues Clues wrote:
Effes wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Personally i dont have a problem with Tom as son of Jack.
But i do wanna know more about his philosophies to this club.
We are about to have a new president whos name i cant promounce... i try to mouth it but i cant.
I dont really care about that....



Pronounced "Lo-Jew-De-Jee".

If anyone can give me his business and education profile I'd be most grateful. I know they're an Italian family with long links to the inner suburbs, but that's about it.


http://au.linkedin.com/pub/mark-logiudice/66/923/466


Grazie, Effes.

Pretty impressed, like his background in the fruit industry too, maybe our Frank Costa? :smile:


An article from a couple of years back

http://www.smh.com.au/business/judds-se ... 1xzi6.html

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:20 am 
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Clayman wrote:
This has been brewing for a while. I do hear his last name is causing him issues otherwise he would have been on the board a while ago. Supporters might not be happy. Time will tell if it happens.

Tom is well connected at Carlton and in the media and is someone who can become president without rocking the boat too much if the supporters will accept him. I hope he does become president. We know he hurts like us when the blues lose. Anyone who I think will put the club before their own interests will get my support all the time. Tom is true navy blue - he had no choice :thumbsup:



I am still very disturbed bu the fact that a few years ago when he was making a behind the scenes run at the Board, he was not a financial member only having bought a Blue $50 support membership and thus had to withdraw the attempt. I am not a supporter of the idea that a President has to be a rich guy who shovels money into the club (as long as he can get others to do it) but if you don't even buy a normal membership......

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:29 am 
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mikkey wrote:
Clayman wrote:
This has been brewing for a while. I do hear his last name is causing him issues otherwise he would have been on the board a while ago. Supporters might not be happy. Time will tell if it happens.

Tom is well connected at Carlton and in the media and is someone who can become president without rocking the boat too much if the supporters will accept him. I hope he does become president. We know he hurts like us when the blues lose. Anyone who I think will put the club before their own interests will get my support all the time. Tom is true navy blue - he had no choice :thumbsup:



I am still very disturbed bu the fact that a few years ago when he was making a behind the scenes run at the Board, he was not a financial member only having bought a Blue $50 support membership and thus had to withdraw the attempt. I am not a supporter of the idea that a President has to be a rich guy who shovels money into the club (as long as he can get others to do it) but if you don't even buy a normal membership......


I thought he pulled out his run for president as he didn't want to oppose Dick. If Dick didn't run then I am sure Tom would have.

Now we need Madden to run and I could have Tom, Dick and Harry in the same sentence.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:37 am 
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Now we need Madden to run and I could have Tom, Dick and Harry in the same sentence.


:lol:

I think the problem with someone like Tom Elliott is that it just reminds us all how far removed from the reality of what goes on inside the walls of the club we love most of us really are.

Tom could be the best thing ever for the club, but being SOJ is always going to be a hindrance for a lot of people. Similarly, many will embrace him because of that fact. Few will assess the man in isolation and on his own merits.

The president is an important job, of course, but why is there precious little discussion on who will replace Swann?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:43 am 
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What about that Colin guy that Jack was grooming to take over in his final days.
Whatever happened to him....
He can come back now...













































Kidding :razz:

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:56 am 
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Clayman wrote:
mikkey wrote:
Clayman wrote:
This has been brewing for a while. I do hear his last name is causing him issues otherwise he would have been on the board a while ago. Supporters might not be happy. Time will tell if it happens.

Tom is well connected at Carlton and in the media and is someone who can become president without rocking the boat too much if the supporters will accept him. I hope he does become president. We know he hurts like us when the blues lose. Anyone who I think will put the club before their own interests will get my support all the time. Tom is true navy blue - he had no choice :thumbsup:



I am still very disturbed bu the fact that a few years ago when he was making a behind the scenes run at the Board, he was not a financial member only having bought a Blue $50 support membership and thus had to withdraw the attempt. I am not a supporter of the idea that a President has to be a rich guy who shovels money into the club (as long as he can get others to do it) but if you don't even buy a normal membership......


I thought he pulled out his run for president as he didn't want to oppose Dick. If Dick didn't run then I am sure Tom would have.

Now we need Madden to run and I could have Tom, Dick and Harry in the same sentence.


It's however true - he wanted to get on the Board (not President) and he was not eligible because he was not a member. Dont recall which year it was - but he admitted to it in the media.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:58 am 
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So far I'm impressed with Tom Elliott's stand. Like synners, I'd like him to fully articulate where he thinks we are and what he thinks needs to be done.

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