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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:41 pm 
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And another interesting answer, in response to a question on whether all of Docherty, Everitt, Thomas and Cripps are in our best 22:

We are a horses for courses team, but on ability and training, yes they do.

Might be time to give the whiteboard a wipe down and start again!


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:16 pm 
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..Krooz has just said that he expects to do more Fwd time as he rucks alongside Knockers, so it seems that they are going to be our ruck combo, so no more pinch hitting fwds in the ruck..

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:54 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..Krooz has just said that he expects to do more Fwd time as he rucks alongside Knockers, so it seems that they are going to be our ruck combo, so no more pinch hitting fwds in the ruck..


Just pinch hitting rucks in the forward line.

I don't mind Levi in the ruck. He contests well. Kruezer I have concerns about. Doesn't watch the ball in a ruck contest (watches his opponent) and has straight arms, tucks his head down in an overhead marking contest.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:01 pm 
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Clayman wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..Krooz has just said that he expects to do more Fwd time as he rucks alongside Knockers, so it seems that they are going to be our ruck combo, so no more pinch hitting fwds in the ruck..


Just pinch hitting rucks in the forward line.

I don't mind Levi in the ruck. He contests well. Kruezer I have concerns about. Doesn't watch the ball in a ruck contest (watches his opponent) and has straight arms, tucks his head down in an overhead marking contest.


Given that we seem to be all about flexibity I struggle to see how we can fit both Warnock & Kruezer in. They will probably be given first go at it to see if they can make something of it.

Personally I'd go with one ruck supported by Casboult or Rowe. If that happens I'd play Warnock. IMO a much better pure ruckman than Kruezer and with our increased midfield depth he would be a huge advantage.

The issue is that I can't see Kruezer in the reserves so it will be interesting to see what happens. :?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:39 pm 
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I can't see Rowe and casboult offering more than kreutzer in any position.

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Let's see what a fitter and stronger Rowe can offer


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:44 pm 
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I can seee Warnock dominating in the ruck as first ruck and Kreuzer having his break out year because he kicks 50.

They just have to stay on the ground super fit and raring to go....coz they want to win a flag.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:58 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
I can't see Rowe and casboult offering more than kreutzer in any position.

+1 :thanks:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:59 pm 
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I can seee Warnock dominating in the ruck as first ruck and Kreuzer having his break out year because he kicks 50.

They just have to stay on the ground super fit and raring to go....coz they want to win a flag.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:13 pm 
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The only place Warnock can play is ruck. He cannot mark the ball above his head - something Kruezer does well.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:51 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
I can seee Warnock dominating in the ruck as first ruck and Kreuzer having his break out year because he kicks 50.


Be great if that happens but I just can't see it.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:46 am 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I can seee Warnock dominating in the ruck as first ruck and Kreuzer having his break out year because he kicks 50.


Be great if that happens but I just can't see it.


..i can't remember the last time a ruck kicked 50.. ..these days, it's rare for the 2nd KPF to kick 50, it's even rarer for a 2 ruck combo to kick 50 combined.. ..Krooz does though get opportunity to kick goals.. ..he averages a good rate of marks within the fwd 50, and this season skewed his goal kicking accuracy but before 2013 he was pretty reliable in front of goal, and he can crumb packs and rove balls to snap goals as well.. .... ..50 though, and krooz would be a brownlow chance cos he'd have to be on fire, and when he plays well the umps give him 3's..

..i can actually see krooz form a very strong ruck combo with knockers.. ..with a dedicated midfield coach and improved set-ups, our rucks may 'miss out' on gathering high possession stats but if they keep winning the amount of taps, with good hitout to adv % that they did together late last season, we are miles ahead.. ..a few times last season krooz was getting over 40% hitout to adv numbers, which is elite..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:08 am 
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Clayman wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..Krooz has just said that he expects to do more Fwd time as he rucks alongside Knockers, so it seems that they are going to be our ruck combo, so no more pinch hitting fwds in the ruck..


Just pinch hitting rucks in the forward line.

I don't mind Levi in the ruck. He contests well. Kruezer I have concerns about. Doesn't watch the ball in a ruck contest (watches his opponent) and has straight arms, tucks his head down in an overhead marking contest.


..krooz's ruckwork is continually under-rated.. ..wins his fair share of taps [if not better], and his hitout to adv %'s are better than most.. ..compared to all the other rucks, he's in the top bracket for marks, contested marks and also marks I50.. ..and with even a poor year in front of goals by his standard, he still kicked 1 goal every 2nd week and is top bracket for goal assists among rucks as well.... ..at our club krooz is top 5 for both contested marks, as well as marks I50..

..and that was in a year when he broke his thumb, and returned after missing 3 weeks for a 6-8 week injury.. ..rushed back too early [obvious in first game back], and later playing thru a broken foot for 3/4's of tiger final.. ..the expectations we all hold of krooz are more than we do for pretty much every other ruck in the comp., and yes in part due to being picked number 1 but also because of his high potential as an excellent all round ruck.. ..and busted ACL setback included, he still has done very well by any other standard..

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:33 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I can seee Warnock dominating in the ruck as first ruck and Kreuzer having his break out year because he kicks 50.


Be great if that happens but I just can't see it.



History tells us that post knee op he hasnt kicked well, but he has never been 100% fit ever since. So I understand where youre coming from Psych.

If, and that's a big IF, he is fit and plays forward, and the players up the ground step up, win the midfield and play to a plan ( a good plan), no reason why Kreuzer cant snag 2 goals a game. He kicked 1 goal every game he played when he was only 19...in fact he kicked 11 goals straight before kicking his first behind. He's been missing easy shots since his knee.

Just a bit of a tweak and full fitness....could happen...I actually BELIEVE.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:34 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
I can seee Warnock dominating in the ruck as first ruck and Kreuzer having his break out year because he kicks 50.


Be great if that happens but I just can't see it.



History tells us that post knee op he hasnt kicked well, but he has never been 100% fit ever since. So I understand where youre coming from Psych.


Understand your point BB just don't think he is up to that role.

I think the issue w both Warnock & Kruezer is they are pure ruckman but are different. They both need to play 80% in ruck and that can't happen. I'd be happy w either doing it.

The other issue is that Rowe or Casboult haven't yet cemented a spot and there are question marks whether they will.

Also, the new interchange limits us.

My personal opinion is that we have Henderson, Casboult/Rowe, Waite up forward surrounded by runners/smalls. Everitt & Walker will probably swap through there as well. Mobile and flexible. Don't underestimate the possibility of White playing a role either.

Like anything form and injury will dictate.

Whatever way I just hope it works. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:55 am 
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Taff wrote:
The only place Warnock can play is ruck. He cannot mark the ball above his head - something Kruezer does well.


Kruezer has a poor over head mark technique. Straight arms and ducks his head down. For a guy his size and presence he does not mark very well.

Sticks needs to show him how to mark.

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Confirmed today that Scotland and Cachia will be the nominated rookies.

Odd.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:49 am 
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Cachia. HMMMMMM

Cant see it personally.. Hope I am proven wrong.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:52 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:17 am 
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..if not wood then very high confidence in body fitness of our ruck combo..

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