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Should Andy Maher Still Host 'The Blue Print'?
NO 59%  59%  [ 92 ]
YES 25%  25%  [ 39 ]
DON'T CARE 17%  17%  [ 26 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:52 pm 
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Id have rather we got Tim lane

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:59 pm 
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The_Wookie wrote:
Id have rather we got Tim lane


He did do that wonderful doco on the history of Carlton back in the 80's.

Still got it somewhere.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:31 pm 
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I reckon they go all meta about it, have Sticks reluctantly host it. Or rather just film Sticks on lunch in the board room, set up a bucket of KFC, a slab of Crownies, and just have various guests who hold roles within the club that 95% of the supporter base know nothing about.

Who wouldn't want to have the option to see drunk Sticks telling everyone what a great bloke Richard Newton or Greg Lee are, without having to go down to a Lygon St watering hole to do so?

Sticks could break the fourth wall and basically tell the entire Google hangout to go @#$%&! themselves, your opinions don't mean shit. I'm Carlton, @#$%&! the rest. Sure the club will only further the current debt level with the subtitling and interpreter bills from SBS, but lookit, we're expanding to foreign markets here.

He could even improv some ads for Docklands Press starring......Professor Gascan!....and uhh.....former President George Harris!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:10 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Piss weak response Doc. I thought you were better than that.
Just because I dont jump on your anti Andrew Maher rant I'm an Essendon** apologist?
I cant stand Essendon** but I also know I've only heard one side of the story. The day I believe everything Demetriou says without hearing the opposing view is the day I'll classify myself as an ignorant fool.

I hope it's all true and I hope Hird and his cronies are banned for life but only if the evidence stacks up instead of a bunch of unsubstantiated charges based off an interim report.


You didn't notice the :wink: I put after it did you? @#$%&! - I don't care if you like Andrew Maher...that's why I made it a poll for flowers sake. I actually thought I was in the minority as I only listen to Maher's program once a week!

But I actually find it difficult to quantify giving money and/or perks to Maher based on his last few months. He wouldn't have been welcome at Carlton in days gone by. He's actually screwed himself anyway because he was once viewed as a good Carlton man to have in the footy media, but now a lot of Carlton people, because of his words during this saga won't give him the time of day. He'll be treated with a little more contempt and might actually get a taste of what Essendon* people will go through over the next decade. No turning back for Mahery now...he threw shit at the likes of Alberto Contador one day and then he condones doping in sport the next. No cojones.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:14 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
The_Wookie wrote:
Id have rather we got Tim lane


He did do that wonderful doco on the history of Carlton back in the 80's.

Still got it somewhere.


Still got about 100 A3 size posters of the cover art of that release. The club threw them out when they knocked the Harris Stand down.

(Yes, I rummaged through the bins when they knocked the Harris and Heatley Stands down...you wouldn't believe what they threw out).

...and yes, Tim Lane would be a marked improvement on Andrew Maher.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:38 pm 
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I'm all for replacing Andy Maher for a better host, but to move him on for his views on Essendon* is just odd. Not sure how it impedes his ability to host.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:48 pm 
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Beantown wrote:
I'm all for replacing Andy Maher for a better host, but to move him on for his views on Essendon** is just odd. Not sure how it impedes his ability to host.



It doesn't.

It's a punishment.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:55 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Beantown wrote:
I'm all for replacing Andy Maher for a better host, but to move him on for his views on Essendon*** is just odd. Not sure how it impedes his ability to host.



It doesn't.

It's a punishment.


Then it's petty. Pissweak organisation if we operate like that.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:02 am 
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I don't want a host who does not present his true view on an issue. He has lost all integrity by siding with Watson. That's enough for me. Get Jim Wilson

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:04 am 
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Beantown wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Beantown wrote:
I'm all for replacing Andy Maher for a better host, but to move him on for his views on Essendon**** is just odd. Not sure how it impedes his ability to host.



It doesn't.

It's a punishment.


Then it's petty. Pissweak organisation if we operate like that.


Maybe, but maybe only if you believe the whole ugly Essendon* situation is petty.

I'm on the fence TBH.

His efforts on SEN have been poor. So poor that he's only marginally behind Watson, Connolly and Slobbo in terms of Bomber cheer leading to the point of misleading, deliberately.

He should be reminded of it.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:51 am 
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SEN'S favourite trick is to report the controversial stuff at 6.00 then abuse anyone that criticises why it hasn't been discussed

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:15 am 
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WOW wrote:
I love the passion in this thread but I will respectfully disagree with most.

I haven't enjoyed his views on the Essendon** saga and it pisses me off, but I think it should have nothing to do with him hosting The Blueprint. His views have not made one iota of difference as to whether Essendon** would be charged or not.

The key issue for me is whether he is doing a good job hosting the show (I don't watch it) and corporate functions. If he is not, then replace him.

I like him on Before the Game and don't mind him on SEN (apart from Essendon** saga), so I think he does have some good qualities.




Sums up my thoughts

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:56 pm 
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I used to listen to Morning Glory every morning. Haven't listened to it for about 3 months now, and won't be going back to it. Andy Maher is far too easily influenced it would seem. As others have said, he has done nothing more than become Tim Watson's lap dog in all this. Has lost all credibility in my eyes, and to be honest, although the blue print is nothing more than hosting, I'd much prefer to have someone on who is prepared to have an opinion the I can trust.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:47 pm 
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Damn straight he should be canned from the show. How many years have Carlton supporters (he is one isn't he?) been putting up with being called cheats? ESPECIALLY from Essendon* supporters. Here is Andy Maher's chance to lay the boot in on behalf of ALL Carlton supporters and what does he do? The opposite!

I'd rate Caroline Wilson a bigger Carlton supporter than Andy Maher. And that's saying something.

The Blue Print isn't watched anymore in our household because of Andy Maher's stance on Essendon*. He had his chance to stick it to the bombers good and proper and borked it big time.

I have no respect for him now.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:58 pm 
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I'd be delighted for him to lose all gigs with Carlton.

I was not thrilled with his sycophantic approach with Watson from day one of this saga, but he jumped the shark after the charges were read out. He should have grown a set at that point and called a spade a spade. Piss weak effort from him, he's lost my respect.

Anyway enough of this I'm going back to the drug cheats thread.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:47 pm 
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has annoyed me for years.

i am not sure if its an effort to appear impartial but he either sits back or joins in when the boots have been driven into us. god knows tim watson has lead the charge when that's happened.

he can gagf.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:00 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
I don't want a host who does not present his true view on an issue.

Maybe he is - maybe he doesn't think Essendon* has done anything wrong

Either way, it reflects poorly on him, he's a douchebag

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 6:10 pm 
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I don'[t like lynch mobs..

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:22 am 
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Megaman wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
I don't want a host who does not present his true view on an issue.

Maybe he is - maybe he doesn't think Essendon** has done anything wrong

Either way, it reflects poorly on him, he's a douchebag


Interesting discussion, one thing i would like explained is how it reflects poorly upon him if he believes that

Essendon* did something wrong or not? How does holding that opinion mean that he is not a good Carlton supporter?

Did i miss the memo that said to be a true Carlton supporter you must hold a certain point of view when it comes to this issue?


I have followed Carlton all my life and been a member since 1974, as much as i love to hate certain teams ( Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon* in that order) it doesn't define a stance i take on every issue related to their clubs.

Personally, i believe Essendon* has done plenty wrong in this matter and should cop their fair whack but i have seen nothing to make me believe they intentionally went out to cheat where drugs are concerned. Their processes sucked and in their determination to take things as close to the edge as they could they crossed the line.

I won't call them drug cheats and from the start of this i have always hoped that their players weren't penalised for the stupidity of those who they entrusted to look out for their best interests. These are the ones who failed them and are the ones who should cop the penalties.


If all of this makes me not a 'True Carlton Supporter' in any of your minds then so be it, i make my own mind up on situations, i don't subscribe to mob rule and whatever you think of Maher personally, his personal take on the Essendon* saga is really irrelevant.


If you are saying remove him because you don't believe he does a good job in the role he is asked to perform that's a valid argument, if it's based on his opinion on Essendon* it's totally invalid.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:32 am 
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Jesus gab? You need to look up cheat in a dictionary.

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