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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:59 am 
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I though all the money to Leading Teams was going to deliver a Geelong leadership Culture?
Too many introverts was the verdict, which seems more like the on-field assessment of many selfish players.
We are still going down that road trying to pay overs for mercs in Cloke and ***gasp** Q-Stick and not taking players we can work with and develop.
Rhys Shaw, Mitch Moreton, Marty Mattner, LRT, Ted Richards, Shane Mumford, Mike Pyke, Ben McGlynn, Josh Kennedy, all second stringers or discards.
Ironically we can't even keep our big money man 206 on the park (to sleep through games), with which the draft pick used 'could' according to some have delivered us the Norm Smith medalist RoK as few years back.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:05 am 
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That a team of moderate draft picks will always beat a team of high draft picks because they play as a team and for each other.
Tanking is not the only solution but I guess some of us knew that!
Well done Swannies, your fans have every right to be prowd of your club and the culture it has built.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:07 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
That a team of moderate draft picks will always beat a team of high draft picks because they play as a team and for each other.
Tanking is not the only solution but I guess some of us knew that!
Well done Swannies, your fans have every right to be prowd of your club and the culture it has built.


A Champion Team will always beat a Team of Champions.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:14 am 
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How they did it

Pretty much sums up what we're all saying...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:35 am 
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How they did it

Pretty much sums up what we're all saying...


Shitwall Donstuie, shitwall.....

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/a-look-at-how-sydney-assebmled-its-premiership-list/story-fnelctok-1226484075224

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:38 am 
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Sydney recruiting chief Kinnear Beatson spoke during the week about how Swans list management philosophy and they viewed bottoming out as a cop-out.

‘When I joined Sydney at the end of 2006, it was very much clear from the board through (chief executive) Andrew Ireland and the coaches that no one ever felt you needed to bottom out to be successful in this competition,'' Beatson said.

“They reckon it's a cop-out, so they have looked to alternative ways to regenerate the list.

“Clearly at the Swans they didn't believe they needed to bottom out. I was told in our market we couldn't afford to do that.”



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Only five of yesterday's team came from the first 30 in the national draft. Hawthorn, by comparison, had 10 from picks 21 or better.


I think I've made my point. Time to let it go for now. :wink:


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:40 am 
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How silly of me :oops:

Another one, this time on Stuie Dew's influence
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The Sydney midfield coach, and the man who kicked two crucial goals for the Hawks in the third term of the 2008 Grand Final, said last night he had never felt as much pressure in his lifetime as he had at quarter-time yesterday.

He might have been a dual premiership player (at Port Adelaide in 2004 and Hawthorn in 2008), but when Swans senior coach John Longmire eyeballed him at quarter-time of yesterday's game, the nerves really hit him.

Longmire demanded answers as to why Hawthorn had been so dominant in the middle of the ground in the first half hour of yesterday's match, and told Dewy to sort out the situation as soon as possible or else the Swans were in trouble.


Hopefully Mick puts the same fear of God into our assistants.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:44 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
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Only five of yesterday's team came from the first 30 in the national draft. Hawthorn, by comparison, had 10 from picks 21 or better.


I think I've made my point. Time to let it go for now. :wink:


Interestingly, of the players 6 traded in, 3 were for picks above 30, so that quote is a little misleading.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:47 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
That a team of moderate draft picks will always beat a team of high draft picks because they play as a team and for each other.
Tanking is not the only solution but I guess some of us knew that!
Well done Swannies, your fans have every right to be prowd of your club and the culture it has built.



LOL

So we would be a better team with more Russells Griggs etc.. than we would be with Murphy Judd etc???

Yes Johnny... Tanking is useless if you dont have the right structures and coaaches around the place......

What will Mick get out of our list you reckon???

And Collingwood tanked for Thomas and Pendles...

Shit clubs do half baked stuff....like allow a coach with ittle idea to coach it for 5 years cos it has 3 number 1 picks and Juddy....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:48 am 
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Swans went on the front foot.

110 tackles in their face and harrassed them out of playing their game.....just swarmed them

We usually look at who to tag......


and again... another grand final that shows... stats mean jack shit...!!!


What role did Keiren Jack play yesterday?

How'd Sam Mitchell go as a result on that role?

Every team 'tags'.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:49 am 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
That a team of moderate draft picks will always beat a team of high draft picks because they play as a team and for each other.
Tanking is not the only solution but I guess some of us knew that!
Well done Swannies, your fans have every right to be prowd of your club and the culture it has built.


A Champion Team will always beat a Team of Champions.

But a team of chaampions playing like a champion team would beat them both....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:49 am 
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Sticks buys a young coach that promises but doesn't deliver .... :razz: :razz: :razz:


EFA

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:53 am 
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Mick will need an assistant that wont let the playes get away with anything......

Too many of our players do all the lair stuff.. and have been allowed to get away with it...

Garlett kicking around corners.
Yarran not keeping his eyes on the ball.
Mids run one way....downhill
Waite falling over.....
Walker not doing the team things....
Falling in the back of players when tackling.
3 up none down (including Betts)

etc etc etc

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:03 am 
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The only point made is the one that was missed - and that is Sydney have the best team culture and player development program in the AFL.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:16 am 
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AGRO wrote:
The only point made is the one that was missed - and that is Sydney have the best team culture and player development program in the AFL.

recruiting is good too.....

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:20 am 
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Blaming the coach for development is the biggest cop out yet again.
Roos/Longmire & Thompson/Scott come to mind!!!!
Yep 2 different coaches winning premierships with same player lists!!!


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Oh and you cant do all this... if you have a coach from the burbs...

actually im so glad they rolled Hawthorn.

Hawthorn tries to control the game..... Sydney with less X factor took the game on and won.They stuck to their game plan of putting Hawthorn under pressure across the board..... not tried to tag them out of the game.....and kept coming back inside and cut them on the counter.

Classic soccer tactics!!

Hoooooray!!!!.....

Need real coaches who are brave ...... and not just egg and potato types

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:22 am 
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Blaming the coach for development is the biggest cop out yet again.
Roos/Longmire & Thompson/Scott come to mind!!!!
Yep 2 different coaches winning premierships with same player lists!!!

They had players that werre stagnant did they Surrey???

And they all are midfield crazy.............

How is Longmires list same as Roos gf list????

Youre dreaming...!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:29 am 
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AGRO wrote:
The only point made is the one that was missed - and that is Sydney have the best team culture and player development program in the AFL.



And Coll under MM weren't that far behind.

The father of modern (screwed up) Carlton is David Parkin. Left our list a shambles post '95 (MgGuane, OReilly, Mansfield, Charles........)

We have NEVER recovered. No ifs, no buts

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