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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:06 am 
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Yep, nice orderly transition. Should be pretty seamless, without too much upheaval.
Much better doing it this way than than how Footscray's going.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:07 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:
All sounds very orderly and proper.
Not sure if it was but well done to the club for giving that impression.

Well done Sticks.


Yeah...well done Sticks... :roll:


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:10 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
...and then there were.... 13? :lol:



Lucky for some.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:13 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
Of course Yahtzee is yiddish for 'This is my club and I win' so it remains to be seen what transpires even after the best of 7 championship series. Zac Fried and Ari Suss are hot favourites.

The bloke on the Yahtzee iPhone app has a mullet, so Sticks is firming. He's a chance to take out the yahtzee title as well.

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Ken Wood? Fair dinkum, I'm not kidding, he could be a Yahtzee....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:24 am 
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Great additions.

Mods, any chance of the Q & A with Ryan going ahead now that he's officially on board?

I'll let him get his eye in with some early half volleys, and then step aside and let the big boys go their hardest!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:39 am 
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So Sticks gets to bow out after orchestrating flag no. 18 :donk:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:41 am 
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I am

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up next year because

it's all a disgrace

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yeah.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:55 am 
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Synbad wrote:
DIAMOTISM wrote:
Now we have 13 months of articles from Caro to look forward to - the unwanted president.


Cant wait...!!! :lol:

Would not be surprised if there wasnt a quickening....


the board living in a cocoon started to realise theyre out of their depth

Harrison
Moulton
Gleeson
Clarke


etc??

Sticks Prez???


pffffffffffffffffft please....

Move aside .. and let some heavyhitters in

We have been stalling on field and off...suburbanites




Rarely have I felt it appropriate to respond on this forum because depsite obvious press leaks, our Board has rarely leaked over the last 6 years and any leaks that have come have been from mischievous third parties. Accordingly I value confidentiality and will continue to observe my obligations.

I have read Synbad's comments over the years and despite the offensive nature of many of them, I have often agreed with him. I also appreciate from a business perspective and certainly in the eyes of the public, a number of members of the Board could not be described as "heavyweights".

From my perspective, for someone to suggest I have been "out of my depth" is absolutely offensive. Synbad, it is clear to me that you are absolutely clueless about the role of the Board and the responsibilities of Board members.

The composition of the Board and leadership of it are the most important aspects. The Board is clearly too big and needs to shrink which it will over the next couple of years to a number which makes sense. I was fully in support of the push to get two "heavyweights" in Ahmed and Luke to join which means we have some significant options for succession. Both Ahmed and Luke are outstanding leaders - I kow this of Ahmed from feedback I have heard from numerous people about the transformation of Aust Post and from my interactions with him. I was in partnership with Luke for 3 years at PwC - he is also an outstanding leader and his first 6 months in office as Australian CEO have been significant in terms of transformation. Luke is also a qualified accountant - something the Board has lacked during my tenure. With my retirement, the Board no longer has a corporate lawyer. We do of course have a commercial barrister in Marcus Clarke.

I know that I have served our Club to the best of my abilities and provided my legal and commercial skills (I was Managing Partner and the Chairman of a law firm for 14 years) that have been necessary on many occasions.

To suggest (by implication) that those sorts of skills are unnecessary, whether provided by me or others, demonstrate remarkable naievity on your part.

The Board needs strength and we will have strength in numbers moving forward. It also needs the right mix of skills and that is still evolving.

This last 12 months has been a massive disappointment to me and not the way I would have want to leave after 6 long and largely thankless years. Mark Harrison, Ari Suss and I volunteered to retire at the end of this season, 12 months ago. We did not do this because we felt "out of our depth" but because we felt that 6 years was long enough to serve and that the Board needed renewal.

I am happy to engage in sensible common sense discussion about our Club and to be respectful in any such dialogue. Sticks handled himself with total dignity last night and I am satisfied that we are now on the right track to becoming a great club.

Stephen M


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:01 am 
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Stephen M wrote:
Synbad wrote:
DIAMOTISM wrote:
Now we have 13 months of articles from Caro to look forward to - the unwanted president.


Cant wait...!!! :lol:

Would not be surprised if there wasnt a quickening....


the board living in a cocoon started to realise theyre out of their depth

Harrison
Moulton
Gleeson
Clarke


etc??

Sticks Prez???


pffffffffffffffffft please....

Move aside .. and let some heavyhitters in

We have been stalling on field and off...suburbanites




Rarely have I felt it appropriate to respond on this forum because depsite obvious press leaks, our Board has rarely leaked over the last 6 years and any leaks that have come have been from mischievous third parties. Accordingly I value confidentiality and will continue to observe my obligations.

I have read Synbad's comments over the years and despite the offensive nature of many of them, I have often agreed with him. I also appreciate from a business perspective and certainly in the eyes of the public, a number of members of the Board could not be described as "heavyweights".

From my perspective, for someone to suggest I have been "out of my depth" is absolutely offensive. Synbad, it is clear to me that you are absolutely clueless about the role of the Board and the responsibilities of Board members.

The composition of the Board and leadership of it are the most important aspects. The Board is clearly too big and needs to shrink which it will over the next couple of years to a number which makes sense. I was fully in support of the push to get two "heavyweights" in Ahmed and Luke to join which means we have some significant options for succession. Both Ahmed and Luke are outstanding leaders - I kow this of Ahmed from feedback I have heard from numerous people about the transformation of Aust Post and from my interactions with him. I was in partnership with Luke for 3 years at PwC - he is also an outstanding leader and his first 6 months in office as Australian CEO have been significant in terms of transformation. Luke is also a qualified accountant - something the Board has lacked during my tenure. With my retirement, the Board no longer has a corporate lawyer. We do of course have a commercial barrister in Marcus Clarke.

I know that I have served our Club to the best of my abilities and provided my legal and commercial skills (I was Managing Partner and the Chairman of a law firm for 14 years) that have been necessary on many occasions.

To suggest (by implication) that those sorts of skills are unnecessary, whether provided by me or others, demonstrate remarkable naievity on your part.

The Board needs strength and we will have strength in numbers moving forward. It also needs the right mix of skills and that is still evolving.

This last 12 months has been a massive disappointment to me and not the way I would have want to leave after 6 long and largely thankless years. Mark Harrison, Ari Suss and I volunteered to retire at the end of this season, 12 months ago. We did not do this because we felt "out of our depth" but because we felt that 6 years was long enough to serve and that the Board needed renewal.

I am happy to engage in sensible common sense discussion about our Club and to be respectful in any such dialogue. Sticks handled himself with total dignity last night and I am satisfied that we are now on the right track to becoming a great club.

Stephen M


Thanks for coming on Stephen.

A clear and concise insight into the running of the club.

Go Blues!!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:10 am 
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To Stephen M.

It is good to hear the point of view from someone who is actually from "inside" the club. Personally I have been loathe to comment on goings on of the board as having been employed by a couple of AFL clubs it is thankless work and anyone you does it should be congratulated.

Please do not take any offence at peoples comments as the majority are appreciative of your work. :clap: In a lot of cases emotion and anger spill over into conversation. This is not an excuse but reality.

Having been a member for more than 30 years and having to endure the past decade I am extremely confident that we are finally heading the right direction. People must understand that this does not happen overnight and tough decisions have to be made.

I hope you stay involved at the club in some capacity and I thank you for your efforts

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:26 am 
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I would like to add that Stephen and Mark put their hand up when nobody with business accumen wanted to. They joined the Board when the club was at the edge of ruin and had to personally canvass potential sponsors as the club had no staff that could.

I would like to thank Stephen and Mark who I met and I know they put a lot of work into the club. Stephen has been one who actually has listened to te grassroots on TC and always replied if you PM'ed him.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:29 am 
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mikkey wrote:
I would like to add that Stephen and Mark put their hand up when nobody with business accumen wanted to. They joined the Board when the club was at the edge of ruin and had to personally canvass potential sponsors as the club had no staff that could.

I would like to thank Stephen and Mark who I met and I know they put a lot of work into the club. Stephen has been one who actually has listened to te grassroots on TC and always replied if you PM'ed him.


Good stuff mikkey!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:40 am 
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cimm1979 wrote:
mikkey wrote:
I would like to add that Stephen and Mark put their hand up when nobody with business accumen wanted to. They joined the Board when the club was at the edge of ruin and had to personally canvass potential sponsors as the club had no staff that could.

I would like to thank Stephen and Mark who I met and I know they put a lot of work into the club. Stephen has been one who actually has listened to te grassroots on TC and always replied if you PM'ed him.


Good stuff mikkey!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:51 am 
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mikkey wrote:
I would like to add that Stephen and Mark put their hand up when nobody with business accumen wanted to. They joined the Board when the club was at the edge of ruin and had to personally canvass potential sponsors as the club had no staff that could.


The club was on the edge of ruin at the beginning of 2007? News to me. As for sponsors...you can thank Bruce Mathieson. You can also thank him for some of the changes happening. You guys might want to start a thread thanking Bruce.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 10:55 am 
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Stephen M wrote:
Synbad wrote:
DIAMOTISM wrote:
Now we have 13 months of articles from Caro to look forward to - the unwanted president.


Cant wait...!!! :lol:

Would not be surprised if there wasnt a quickening....


the board living in a cocoon started to realise theyre out of their depth

Harrison
Moulton
Gleeson
Clarke


etc??

Sticks Prez???


pffffffffffffffffft please....

Move aside .. and let some heavyhitters in

We have been stalling on field and off...suburbanites




Rarely have I felt it appropriate to respond on this forum because depsite obvious press leaks, our Board has rarely leaked over the last 6 years and any leaks that have come have been from mischievous third parties. Accordingly I value confidentiality and will continue to observe my obligations.

I have read Synbad's comments over the years and despite the offensive nature of many of them, I have often agreed with him. I also appreciate from a business perspective and certainly in the eyes of the public, a number of members of the Board could not be described as "heavyweights".

From my perspective, for someone to suggest I have been "out of my depth" is absolutely offensive. Synbad, it is clear to me that you are absolutely clueless about the role of the Board and the responsibilities of Board members.

The composition of the Board and leadership of it are the most important aspects. The Board is clearly too big and needs to shrink which it will over the next couple of years to a number which makes sense. I was fully in support of the push to get two "heavyweights" in Ahmed and Luke to join which means we have some significant options for succession. Both Ahmed and Luke are outstanding leaders - I kow this of Ahmed from feedback I have heard from numerous people about the transformation of Aust Post and from my interactions with him. I was in partnership with Luke for 3 years at PwC - he is also an outstanding leader and his first 6 months in office as Australian CEO have been significant in terms of transformation. Luke is also a qualified accountant - something the Board has lacked during my tenure. With my retirement, the Board no longer has a corporate lawyer. We do of course have a commercial barrister in Marcus Clarke.

I know that I have served our Club to the best of my abilities and provided my legal and commercial skills (I was Managing Partner and the Chairman of a law firm for 14 years) that have been necessary on many occasions.

To suggest (by implication) that those sorts of skills are unnecessary, whether provided by me or others, demonstrate remarkable naievity on your part.

The Board needs strength and we will have strength in numbers moving forward. It also needs the right mix of skills and that is still evolving.

This last 12 months has been a massive disappointment to me and not the way I would have want to leave after 6 long and largely thankless years. Mark Harrison, Ari Suss and I volunteered to retire at the end of this season, 12 months ago. We did not do this because we felt "out of our depth" but because we felt that 6 years was long enough to serve and that the Board needed renewal.

I am happy to engage in sensible common sense discussion about our Club and to be respectful in any such dialogue. Sticks handled himself with total dignity last night and I am satisfied that we are now on the right track to becoming a great club.

Stephen M



Stephen, thanks for your efforts.
However, you would agree the cub will soon be in better hands.
If i am offensive its because im a frustrated supporter of this football club.
I dared to dream that this club is greater than what it has shown in the past decade.

Thanks for your reply....

But i too had my opinion on where we were going.... and i could just see darkness under what i believed was a sub standard board for this clubs potential.

Cheers and all the best!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:00 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
mikkey wrote:
I would like to add that Stephen and Mark put their hand up when nobody with business accumen wanted to. They joined the Board when the club was at the edge of ruin and had to personally canvass potential sponsors as the club had no staff that could.


The club was on the edge of ruin at the beginning of 2007? News to me. As for sponsors...you can thank Bruce Mathieson. You can also thank him for some of the changes happening. You guys might want to start a thread thanking Bruce.


They ran for the Board before Pratt came in, and at that time the club was in big poo poo - ran in 2006 if I remember correctly. Keyboard warriors deriding people who actually put real work and money into the club really pee me off. The latest developments are very positive, but dont disparage people when they did what they could to help the club. At the time when Stephen and Mark put their hand up, none of the heavy weights wanted a bar of it (only after Pratt came in).

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:06 am 
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GWS wrote:
The best thing about this isn't just Fahour and Sayers etc.

It's that the Carlton Board will be a place that others now queue up to be a part of because of the greater connectedness of those now on it.

The new appointments are a step in the right direction but it's the fact that the direction itself has changed that's really significant.

Good signs.



I don't disagree GWS...but weren't we saying this when Pratt arrived?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:10 am 
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mikkey wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
mikkey wrote:
I would like to add that Stephen and Mark put their hand up when nobody with business accumen wanted to. They joined the Board when the club was at the edge of ruin and had to personally canvass potential sponsors as the club had no staff that could.


The club was on the edge of ruin at the beginning of 2007? News to me. As for sponsors...you can thank Bruce Mathieson. You can also thank him for some of the changes happening. You guys might want to start a thread thanking Bruce.


They ran for the Board before Pratt came in, and at that time the club was in big poo poo.


The club got itself further in the 'poo poo' with Dick Pratt at the helm because he was wayyy past being an effective President or board member. Don't rewrite history and tell yourself that Dick Pratt was a good President. Unfortunately, while most all Directors do some great work, their tenure at the club won't be remembered very fondly...not by me anyway. But that's all in another thread. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31763#p1277049


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:11 am 
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Irrespective what any of us think, its very refreshing to have a current board member of CFC take the time to comment on our forum. I don't really think it matters whether we agree or disagree.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:20 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
The club got itself further in the 'poo poo' with Dick Pratt at the helm because he was wayyy past being an effective President or board member. Don't rewrite history and tell yourself that Dick Pratt was a good President. Unfortunately, while most all Directors do some great work, their tenure at the club won't be remembered very fondly...not by me anyway. But that's all in another thread. viewtopic.php?f=2&t=31763#p1277049



The only thing I want to say is that a) Pratt saved the club. He was not perfect but he was very important b) Really not impressed with keyboard warriors like you who can not acknowledge the efforts of people who actually "do something" .

PS: Deriding Pratt is really delusional. No matter if he was "past it" regarding the way the AFL works, he attracted Judd, got rid of a mediocre CEO, increased corporate dollars enormously including the famous fund raiser at his place, initiated the new facilities etc. The club was nearly "gone" under the "leadership" of Smorgon. Pratt was like a defibrillator. I wonder what had happened without him.

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