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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:04 am 
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Best wishes to Ratts in what lies ahead. Perhaps an Eade/Ratts combo at Port ?


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:53 pm 
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Sincere thanks to Ratts for all of your efforts over the past few years.

I always appreciated your candor and pragmatic approach. You always made a lot of sense and were aware of the big picture.

There were no claims of guruism. Just a commitment to having a crack as best you could. Hopefully a trait that has rubbed off on the playing group.

Best of luck in the future!

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:14 pm 
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I post this very sincerely, so don't anyone take it the wrong way.

Ratts, I'm sure, would be feeling fine right about now.

He's had a kick in the guts, which is never pleasant. But a day later, he wakes up after a good night's sleep. Hopefully has a cuddle with his missus. Has a play with his kid. Maybe goes online and checks his bank statement... yep, the $500k golden parachute has cleared. No worries about the mortgage or anything like that. He's probably already fielded a call from Parko about the Port Adelaide job. If that doesn't come off, he'll easily score an assistant's gig at $150-$250k, most likely at a Melbourne based club.

Life's pretty good for Ratts. And I personally believe that once the club made the call that he wasn't the right man, they've treated him as well as they could through it. A lot better than St Kilda did to their champs with their 7 cents in the dollar insult. Some of the media talk painting the club as callous, and ratts as a hapless victim is, I think, quite demeaning to both parties.

Ratts did his best, but in the washup it wasn't quite good enough. No shame in that, I don't know a single person over the age of 30 who hasn't been given the arse from a job. I've been fired twice. Both times I felt awful for 24 hours, but very fortunate a short time later. Getting the arse doesn't mean a person is rubbish (although sometimes they are) it most always means they weren't right for the job at the time, or they were promoted to a gig before they were really ready for it.

Often, the fault lies with the people doing the hiring. I know this. I've made the mistake of hiring the wrong people, and I've had to rectify that mistake the only way you can: by unhiring them. But it's a black mark against your name, not theirs. And everyone knows it.

Ratten gave it his best as senior coach at Carlton. He came up a bit short. He'll do more than ok. He's not a victim. He's in the middle of a long, rewarding and comparatively lucrative AFL career.

People shouldn't feel sorry for Ratts. If anything, they should envy him. He's living the dream: he gets to spend a life in football. Good on him.


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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
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All the best Ratts - it was the best decision for the club, Power may even become my second team when you coach them next year :thumbsup:


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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:29 pm 
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Thanks Ratts.. you exceeded my wildest dreams.....

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:38 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
I post this very sincerely, so don't anyone take it the wrong way.

Ratts, I'm sure, would be feeling fine right about now.

He's had a kick in the guts, which is never pleasant. But a day later, he wakes up after a good night's sleep. Hopefully has a cuddle with his missus. Has a play with his kid. Maybe goes online and checks his bank statement... yep, the $500k golden parachute has cleared. No worries about the mortgage or anything like that. He's probably already fielded a call from Parko about the Port Adelaide job. If that doesn't come off, he'll easily score an assistant's gig at $150-$250k, most likely at a Melbourne based club.

Life's pretty good for Ratts. And I personally believe that once the club made the call that he wasn't the right man, they've treated him as well as they could through it. A lot better than St Kilda did to their champs with their 7 cents in the dollar insult. Some of the media talk painting the club as callous, and ratts as a hapless victim is, I think, quite demeaning to both parties.

Ratts did his best, but in the washup it wasn't quite good enough. No shame in that, I don't know a single person over the age of 30 who hasn't been given the arse from a job. I've been fired twice. Both times I felt awful for 24 hours, but very fortunate a short time later. Getting the arse doesn't mean a person is rubbish (although sometimes they are) it most always means they weren't right for the job at the time, or they were promoted to a gig before they were really ready for it.

Often, the fault lies with the people doing the hiring. I know this. I've made the mistake of hiring the wrong people, and I've had to rectify that mistake the only way you can: by unhiring them. But it's a black mark against your name, not theirs. And everyone knows it.

Ratten gave it his best as senior coach at Carlton. He came up a bit short. He'll do more than ok. He's not a victim. He's in the middle of a long, rewarding and comparatively lucrative AFL career.

People shouldn't feel sorry for Ratts. If anything, they should envy him. He's living the dream: he gets to spend a life in football. Good on him.


Good summation; and tribute...... :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:49 pm 
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Just to clarify, the point of this thread is to thank Ratten for his service. There are numerous threads discussing the merits of his tenure, and this is not one of them. The ban hammer is well and truly out of the cabinet and will be applied liberally.

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And now I'm spending my Sunday pruning. I'm about 25 years too young for this...

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:09 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
I post this very sincerely, so don't anyone take it the wrong way.

Ratts, I'm sure, would be feeling fine right about now.

He's had a kick in the guts, which is never pleasant. But a day later, he wakes up after a good night's sleep. Hopefully has a cuddle with his missus. Has a play with his kid. Maybe goes online and checks his bank statement... yep, the $500k golden parachute has cleared. No worries about the mortgage or anything like that. He's probably already fielded a call from Parko about the Port Adelaide job. If that doesn't come off, he'll easily score an assistant's gig at $150-$250k, most likely at a Melbourne based club.

Life's pretty good for Ratts. And I personally believe that once the club made the call that he wasn't the right man, they've treated him as well as they could through it. A lot better than St Kilda did to their champs with their 7 cents in the dollar insult. Some of the media talk painting the club as callous, and ratts as a hapless victim is, I think, quite demeaning to both parties.

Ratts did his best, but in the washup it wasn't quite good enough. No shame in that, I don't know a single person over the age of 30 who hasn't been given the arse from a job. I've been fired twice. Both times I felt awful for 24 hours, but very fortunate a short time later. Getting the arse doesn't mean a person is rubbish (although sometimes they are) it most always means they weren't right for the job at the time, or they were promoted to a gig before they were really ready for it.

Often, the fault lies with the people doing the hiring. I know this. I've made the mistake of hiring the wrong people, and I've had to rectify that mistake the only way you can: by unhiring them. But it's a black mark against your name, not theirs. And everyone knows it.

Ratten gave it his best as senior coach at Carlton. He came up a bit short. He'll do more than ok. He's not a victim. He's in the middle of a long, rewarding and comparatively lucrative AFL career.

People shouldn't feel sorry for Ratts. If anything, they should envy him. He's living the dream: he gets to spend a life in football. Good on him.


well written John....he'll move on from this....and so will we most likely (we need to)


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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:44 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
And now I'm spending my Sunday pruning. I'm about 25 years too young for this...

:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:52 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
And now I'm spending my Sunday pruning. I'm about 25 years too young for this...



The list?

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:11 am 
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All the best Ratts. Who knows. We may see you again as our coach in the future.


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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:48 pm 
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Just repeating the news I heard on SEN by Robbo.
Ratts has turned down the port job, along with everyone else..gee it must be bad!

Was seen up on the GC.

sounds good.

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:01 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
Just repeating the news I heard on SEN by Robbo.
Ratts has turned down the port job, along with everyone else..gee it must be bad!

Was seen up on the GC.

sounds good.


Good luck Ratt's.

Curious all these people withdrawing from the Port job.

Is it that bad or has the decision already been made?

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
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cimm1979 wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Just repeating the news I heard on SEN by Robbo.
Ratts has turned down the port job, along with everyone else..gee it must be bad!

Was seen up on the GC.

sounds good.


Good luck Ratt's.

Curious all these people withdrawing from the Port job.

Is it that bad or has the decision already been made?


Good point cimm, but who??

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
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I think Ratten may have just dodged a bullet...

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:16 pm 
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Sounds like Ratts took my advice when we met for a cup of tea! :wink:

Smart move.

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:19 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Just repeating the news I heard on SEN by Robbo.
Ratts has turned down the port job, along with everyone else..gee it must be bad!

Was seen up on the GC.

sounds good.


Good luck Ratt's.

Curious all these people withdrawing from the Port job.

Is it that bad or has the decision already been made?


Good point cimm, but who??


Buggered if I know but maybe they are still involved in finals.?

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:25 pm 
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/r ... 2699y.html

Regards Cazzesman

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 Post subject: Re: Thanks Ratts
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Which way is it Caroline?

Is Ports situation "dire" because they didn't have a coach lined up after they sacked Primus?

Or do you want to continue to cast aspersions at Carlton because we were smart enough not to leave ourselves in a similar "dire" situation. :roll:

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