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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:20 pm 
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out of harmes' way wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
We are renting office space in Collins St now?
Swann doesn't like Parkville?

Gee some rumours are ridiculous

Fact, fact, fact. Say what you like.

Oh and why would you meet a potential recruit at your club's homebase? Seriously!


As compared with some out of the way place like Collins st? (just messin' with ya).

I thought Dad-Cloke handled all his negotiations?

Anyway be best not to make an offer right now ... I reckon the price is still falling.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:33 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
out of harmes' way wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:
We are renting office space in Collins St now?
Swann doesn't like Parkville?

Gee some rumours are ridiculous

Fact, fact, fact. Say what you like.

Oh and why would you meet a potential recruit at your club's homebase? Seriously!


Facts are usually based around evidence - where is yours?



Geez guys, as if this was the first meeting at 101.
So we're talking to Cloke. Not sure why that would be too hard to comprehend.

So we just abort chasing players that would assist in no. 17 for a kid that's had a few good games? :)

Seriously people.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:16 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Big Ben kids!



Parliament.....!


:lol:

Hey, Dad, he's going to pork her!

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:00 am 
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:lol: Rhino you're being a knob

Quasimodo, you're being a hunchback.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:23 am 
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At least Cloke gets on the park every week.

Waite at this point is a luxury, Levi needs to learn how to kick and Mitchell hasn't played a game. apparently that's the platform from which a flag will be won. Cloke has been there and done it. Who cares who his dad is. If we can pick him up without giving away a pick, what's the downside? Name me a young player on the list this year who has put his hand up for a significant pay rise. The key players are getting looked after. If we can fit him in I say go for it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:29 am 
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If he plays like he did on Saturday night, would you even want him on the park?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:31 am 
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Punter22 wrote:
what's the downside?


The downside is that by paying him massive overs for 5 year period could ruin our list management.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:41 am 
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What makes anyone think Tom "Barge-arse" Bell wants to touch Cloke anyway.

Oops, sorry, carry on.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:33 am 
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Stamos wrote:
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what's the downside?


The downside is that by paying him massive overs for 5 year period could ruin our list management.


If its going to 'ruin' anything, I would suggest it won't happen.

I do think some here are overestimating what we have in key forward stocks in relation to a gf tilt. Cloke is the only gf proven key forward on the market.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:34 am 
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muzza wrote:
The one that intrigues me the most is the moon landing theory suggesting that it was indeed the Nevada desert.

Will we ever know?


I heard a rumour it was Cloke in the space suit.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:44 am 
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The worst part about recruiting a Cloke to Carlton isn't having Travis around the place.

It's having David.

Steer well clear.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:46 am 
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Punter22 wrote:
At least Cloke gets on the park every week.

Waite at this point is a luxury, Levi needs to learn how to kick and Mitchell hasn't played a game. apparently that's the platform from which a flag will be won. Cloke has been there and done it. Who cares who his dad is. If we can pick him up without giving away a pick, what's the downside? Name me a young player on the list this year who has put his hand up for a significant pay rise. The key players are getting looked after. If we can fit him in I say go for it.


I see Henderson as a key forward down the track ie next year. Jamo, Laidler, Mcinnes, White and Watson is ample cover down back. McCarthy in the wings
So a combo of Waite, Levi, Hendo , Kreuzer pinch hitting. Mitchell in the wings and Hampson as emergency cover.

I'd rather chase a mid or two if we have a million spare.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:46 am 
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Stamos wrote:
Punter22 wrote:
what's the downside?


The downside is that by paying him massive overs for 5 year period could ruin our list management.


Yep, players being squeezed out because of the salary cap and overlooking tall forwards in the draft because we don't 'need' them. It's not so straightforward as getting him for 'free'.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:59 am 
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Id say the only reason we would be going for Cloke is if MM has put in an early request.

eeeeeew i hate the sound of all that.

Rather finish 8th with Ratts in charge than have those clowns at Carlton.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:09 am 
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club29 wrote:
Id say the only reason we would be going for Cloke is if MM has put in an early request.

eeeeeew i hate the sound of all that.

Rather finish 8th with Ratts in charge than have those clowns at Carlton.


I'm a little more open minded on the subject but certainly a NO to Cloke and nothing would make me happier than success with Ratt's.

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From BF for the grain of salt file.
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Feel free to see how often I post rumours, I can assure you from inside the club there are only two clubs being considered by the Clokes. The Blues and the Tigers, and they have hardly been getting any press at all on this to their credit. Its a choice of two, simple as that apparently.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:51 am 
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Tigers in the box seat. (hope it's true this time :oops: ).

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:58 am 
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You're right. Seeing as Richmond missed out on Judd, they should make sure they don't fail a second time in landing the best* player in the game.

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You're right. Seeing as Richmond missed out on Judd, they should make sure they don't fail a second time in landing the best* player in the game.

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

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I think for them the idea of Cloke/Riewoldt has a lot of romance to it, but like the Brown/Fev combo a few years ago, both these guys demand the football. They demand to be the focal point, and have egos to match. It would be interesting to see if they could work together, and if so, look out.

As for us, we don't have that current focal point (Levi has been VERY good, but it's still to early to put our faith in him), and our more mobile forward line (even including Waite and Walker, who certainly aren't clunkers) could be more effective around that central target. But the question again comes to work ethic and teamwork, and Cloke has shown of late that he can be a very selfish player.

Case 1: J Riewoldt and Cloke, with not much else
Case 2: Cloke with Eddie, Jeff, AW running around his feet

On both fronts he'd have to learn to bring others into the game if things aren't going his way. And of late, he's been piss poor on this front.

I honestly don't know what to think at this stage, but if we did go after Cloke, the club had better be sure as shit they can make him work. High risk/High reward proposition that could also @#$%&! us up enormously.

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