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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:52 pm 
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Ruck rover, seriously tell me another 6ft 6 player to play ruck rover.

Kreuzer is:

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D. All of the above


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:06 pm 
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Army to run with Jetta. Take away their outside weapon and we are a slightly better chance.


Not a bad move but think Army may line up on R.Shaw up fwd. AJ may get the go on Jetta. Wonder if Bell could run off the wing (pace?) and bury his hard hits on him whenever he gets the ball.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:23 pm 
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It would be great if Walker and Simpson were available!

Robbo should be back you'd think.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:34 pm 
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Bell on Kennedy please. Drive him into the ground with a tackle everytime he gets it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:35 pm 
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We have to make every one of their players accountable, especially on the rebound.

Players like Goodes are big going forward, but can be soft on the second effort. We need to exploit that. And make their flashy players like Dennis-Lane and Jetta accountable.

In short, we need to put the blowtorch to them the way they do to other teams.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:46 pm 
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They haven't had a problem smashing us at the dome in the past and I suspect they will do the same again this week.......

Lets not forget that last nights game would of been very taxing on the players too...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:48 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
Ruck rover, seriously tell me another 6ft 6 player to play ruck rover.

Kreuzer is:

A. Ruckman
B. Ruckman
C. Ruckman
D. All of the above


Wait, I know this one. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:55 pm 
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If they are trying to develop players like Mcinnes then giving them a rest after a 4 weeks block of games isn't out of the question. The pies did this with Brown, Sidebottom and Beams to name a few. Don't think it has done them much harm. Saying the MC should resign if they drop one of them lacks imagination. Hope our MC are thinking clearly and are analysing all the facts before making rash decisions. Being proactive and resting a young player before he has a complete confidence busting stinker.
Send them back for a mental rest and give them some instructions on things to work on.

I am not saying drop these guys but if all evidence points to them falling away then get on the front foot.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:09 pm 
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If they are trying to develop players like Mcinnes then giving them a rest after a 4 weeks block of games isn't out of the question. The pies did this with Brown, Sidebottom and Beams to name a few. Don't think it has done them much harm. Saying the MC should resign if they drop one of them lacks imagination. Hope our MC are thinking clearly and are analysing all the facts before making rash decisions. Being proactive and resting a young player before he has a complete confidence busting stinker.
Send them back for a mental rest and give them some instructions on things to work on.

I am not saying drop these guys but if all evidence points to them falling away then get on the front foot.


Yep, you could see White, Ellard, Waite coming in for a some of McInnes, Bell, Casboult etc. Not necessarily because they are struggling but because it allows others to come in for some game time.

I mean those conditions last night were made for Ellard, possibly even more so than for Bell or Dale, but he didn't get a run because the MC want to see others play.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:19 pm 
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Robbo back in, him and young Bell smashing Swans bodies at every contest.


Love Robbo, and he's pretty much an automatic in.

But I love what Bell is bringing too.

And you'd be crazy to drop McLean now.

But really, can you have all 3 in the same midfield? You probably need to now, given no Judd/Simpson, but long term?

Possibly play Robbo in the forward 50... his brand of crazy would be pretty valuable in keeping the ball in, creating opportunities for others, and he doesn't mind the odd goal either.

I like the idea of Garlett in the midfield rotations.

Garlett, Robbo and Bell can all rotate between midfield and forward. Rotations these days and unpredictability.
We have injuries in our backline. But Reid and Goodes were injured themselves and would appear unlikely to play next week. Will be interesting to see how we'd use Jamison (who I reckon would have taken Goodes anyway).
Again expecting a loss against a seriously in form team. Just hope we go through with no injuries once again and don't get blown away...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:54 pm 
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In - Robbo, Walks, Waite(sub)

Out- Dale, Davies, Duigan

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:08 pm 
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In - Robbo, Walks, Waite(sub)

Out- Dale, Davies, Duigan

Agree with these ins and outs.
I just hope that a few more supporters turn up to this game, crowds have been disappointing of late.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:08 pm 
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Ratten said on 3AW today that Robbo, Simmo, Tex & Waite are all a chance of returning this week. I think it's unlikely that Simmo will be ready, but assuming Robbo & Tex are OK they will come straight in. Waite is the interesting one - he's underdone, but I get the feeling the MC will bring him straight in after 1 VFL game. Not 100% sure it's the right thing to do personally, but he certainly looked good today (but I guess it depends on how he pulls up). And I think we might have to bring back the extra tall defender against the Swans at the Dome - it's a choice between Bower, Watson & White. I'd go with Watson.

In: Robbo, Tex, Waite, Watson
Out: AJ, Casboult, Dale, Duigan

If Robbo doesn't come up, AJ might hold his place but I wouldn't mind bringing in ROK instead. If Tex isn't ready, I'd play Lucas.

If Waite comes in, it's either Casboult or T-Bird that has to make way. Casboult has done quite well in his first 2 games, but I don't mind resting him at this stage. His body has been fragile and I imagine the club will be keen to manage his workload carefully.

B: Tuohy Jamo McInnes
HB: Yarran Watson Gibbs
C: Scotland Brock Collins
HF: Garlett T-Bird Robbo
F: Betts Waite Walker

R: Kreuzer Carrazzo Murphy
Inter: Armfield Bell Curnow
Sub: Davies

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:48 pm 
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JohnM wrote:
blues8182 wrote:
Robbo back in, him and young Bell smashing Swans bodies at every contest.


Love Robbo, and he's pretty much an automatic in.

But I love what Bell is bringing too.

And you'd be crazy to drop McLean now.

But really, can you have all 3 in the same midfield? You probably need to now, given no Judd/Simpson, but long term?

Possibly play Robbo in the forward 50... his brand of crazy would be pretty valuable in keeping the ball in, creating opportunities for others, and he doesn't mind the odd goal either.

I like the idea of Garlett in the midfield rotations.


..i only really slow player though is McLean.. ..and McLean works very well as an outside mid link-man so he's not slowly an in and under, he's had a great balance of contested and uncontested possessions.. ..bell seems to kinda get his momentum going, i wouldn't think of him as slow, but he does seem [so far] to be heavily slanted towards being mostly an inside mid.. ..and Robbo isn't slow, and can work fwd as well as inside mid so they're not all strictly the same type of player.. ..and i think you need a few seriously hard players to rotate thru the middle.. ..curnow's another, and both murphy and carrots do well inside and out.. ..garlett, army and even joseph can add extra speed..

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:23 pm 
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Play Waite as the sub. Throws a spanner in the works for swans.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:28 pm 
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Wonder if Bell could run off the wing (pace?) and bury his hard hits on him whenever he gets the ball.


Should at times play Bell and Robinson on opposite wings and just have them go full speed at the contest....around the grounds have them play wide of the stoppage and smashing in. Bell lays a ripping tackle and Robbo needs no explanation.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:56 am 
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King Kenny wrote:
Ruck rover, seriously tell me another 6ft 6 player to play ruck rover.

Kreuzer is:

A. Ruckman
B. Ruckman
C. Ruckman
D. All of the above


There really isn't such a thing as the traditional ruck rover, but if we're relying on Kreuzer to be our #1 ruckman we're in big trouble - and so is he.

He's not a traditional ruck. Warnock must be played as our centre bounce ruckman and Kreuzer as an around the ground ruck/midfielder who can go forward.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:13 am 
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The Duke wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
Ruck rover, seriously tell me another 6ft 6 player to play ruck rover.

Kreuzer is:

A. Ruckman
B. Ruckman
C. Ruckman
D. All of the above


There really isn't such a thing as the traditional ruck rover, but if we're relying on Kreuzer to be our #1 ruckman we're in big trouble - and so is he.

He's not a traditional ruck. Warnock must be played as our centre bounce ruckman and Kreuzer as an around the ground ruck/midfielder who can go forward.


Then Kruezer will have a proper mid as his opponent and he will get cleaned up on the spread and exposed for lack of zippyness around the stoppages. He needs to play on the opposition ruck to expose him. Unfortunately that means we will lose a lot of hitouts. Some sums need to be done to see where the value is.

Needs to learn to play forward better either way.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:27 am 
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Maybe play Waitey, as his condition is not going to heal. Let him give his all, try to get us a couple of goals, like a good lead out swimmer. Then we could rest him for a couple of games, and do it again.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:30 am 
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or he could just punch someone, and then rest for a few weeks. :razz:

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