Our inferior-looking (compared to our 70s/80s/90s) uniform.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Anyone who really believes that one error cost us the game on Sat is clutching at some fairly brittle straws

And by the way in 93, the biggest error was caused by Parkin. He has admitted it himself. Carlton were slight favourites that day

Ratts stays for 2011....would be great if he stays beyond as it means we've done particularly well. But FFS, lets not get so defensive and precious when people here express an opinion that reflects the MC in a negative light. What is this, Grade 3 where everything is rosy and elephant stamps are handed out more liberally than Judd's accolades.

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

I couldn't care if he is coach next year or not, whatever is best for Carlton. I'm just pointing out that quite a few mistakes happened that were beyond his control. Also people are overeating after four rounds.

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Between our dreams and actions lies this world

Forgetting about whether he can be blamed for instances of play or not, ask the question, is he getting everything he can from this group of players? Are we seeing this group performing to its potential?

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

I don't think people's diets are the issue here kk

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Thanks for the grammar lesson "kingkerna" this is a supporters discussion so there's no need to be pessimistic!

Kingkerna i ask you this, if the blues forwards setup had been better e.g. no Henderson, meaning the same setup as we had against Collingwood we would have been 4-5 goals up. So these small errors you keep bringing up in fact would not have been the difference between defeat and victory. All teams make these errors so it's part of what happens on the field. If Ratten had selected correctly in the first place, which he hasn't been able to do for much of this year e.g. Thornton, the blues would have won.

Can i also state that i have nothing against Henderson, his time will come but only when he is fully fit and has more match preparation at VFL level.

This is my view on Ratten from my personal experience as a coach.
I’m not saying its right or wrong, but just makes make me wonder where he fits.

I have been a player of my local cricket club for the last 25 years. During my junior years (U/17’s), the club didn’t have
much success with their juniors with winning premierships. While I was playing juniors, the club approached a coach who
had just about every coaching credentials you could have as cricket coach. Unfortunately we went without a premiership.

As the years have gone by, the club has tried many coaches from very young 18 yr olds to over 50s to coach. From professional
coaches to coaches with no experience. The juniors won only 3 premierships from 1985 to 2004.

In 2005, I was approached by the club to try my hand in coaching the U/17’s. I had years of cricket experience and the
club noticed that I bonded very well with the kids. I could relate with the kids and many say that I’m a kid in a
grownups body (I’m now 40). I also respect the kids more so than the other Senior Players which the kids returned their respect to me.

When the news went out that I was to coach, there was a sense of excitement brewing around the juniors playing group.
The team and I bonded so well together we went through the season undefeated and won the 2005 premiership.
The following year I captained our senior reserves and played with 6 kids and 3 adults and won the premiership that year.
The club now appoints junior coaches that bond well with kids rather than have experience in coaching. The juniors have
won 5 Grand Finals in the last 6 years.

Is Ratten the right coach for this club, is probably the biggest debate in this forum, which leads to some questions.
Is he respected by the playing group?.
It comes across that the relationship between James Hird and his playing group is healthier than Ratten and his playing group, so is
this the reason they seem to be playing better footy?.
I’m only going by my personal experience and I believe that if coach and player don’t work well together then you’re in for disaster.

Those around the club maybe able to shed some light on the relationship between Ratts and the playing group. Is it healthy ?

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BRING BACK PERFORMANCE BASE PAYMENTS !!!

I agree.

Also, some people just can't help themselves. They're just fat bastards.....

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

You do tend to put weight on when you're a keyboard warrior.

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Between our dreams and actions lies this world

Perfect comeback!

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

The MC got it horribly wrong. How much of that is Ratts is hard to gauge.

I don't hate Collins and didn't think he was as bad as many have posted, but Lucas, Army and Ellard would have provided more.

I love Hendo, but If they'd picked T-Bird we probably would have won.

I support them getting games into Hammer, but he's just got to impose himself more. He did do some reasonable ground work, as did 206.

Things that Ratts can get boned for.
Not subbing Hendo off when it was apparent he would never pick up the pace of the game.


Thats about it.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

The sub won't be used tactically from just about all teams unless they're 44 points down at half time in the grand final. Just won't happen because of the injury factor.

I actually think its locked in with every club, don't use the sub unless its within 5 minutes playing time of the break at 3/4 time.

That's why i'd like to see the sub rule shaken up a bit, allow the clubs to use it tactically and allow the subbed player to come back on if another player is injured and unable to play any longer for the game. The other option is to have 2 subs but then you have 2 blokes every week losing match fitness, not really fair on the players at all.

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"I will rejoice in their anguish, delight in their failure and revel in our success"

We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!

You may well be right, but you could have been mistaken that Hendo was the third ACL out there. As they say in the police TIME, PLACE, CIRCUMSTANCE.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Starting to wonder if Sticks as coach has merit, if only for the fact its possibly the only role at the club he could have where he'd actually be accountable..

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Ratts said that Warnoch was injured and they were worried he wouldnt see out the game so Henda may have been required to help in the ruck. They eventually rolled the dice and stuck with Warnock as resting forward he could help with the task of dealing with Fletcher.

Cimm1979, the MC only make suggestions, in the end its the coach who makes the final call. Do you think Mick Malthouse would have changes made to the team that he didn't approve.... come on it frustrated me that people aren't clear as the runnings of a football club.

Well done Ratts ... I thought we were in for an emotionally charged hiding. We will whip them later in the year when all the Essendon* fluff has settled. Not well done by the MC. Armfield and Ellard should be in this side.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

and as the police also say..
dadoo-do-do
dada-dah -dah

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Ratts approach to team selections is likely to be somewhat more collaborative than Mick "you're a rapist" Malthouse,

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I hope Essendon* folds.

The days of the screaming, abusing, histrionic coach is long gone, just wouldn't work with today's yoof. But I can't help wondering that a coach that does exude a slightly intimidating air may not be a bad thing.

I just can't imagine a Blues player feeling intimidated by Ratts. I can't see a player being overly concerned at incuring Ratt's displeasure.

Carlton with such a young side need a coach with a proven track record. A coach who is going to have the respect of the young blokes, a father figure. A coach they know will not take crap. A coach not too close to past players, committee members etc. M. Malthouse come on down.