I've just finished watching the replay and his harshest critic would say he cost us one goal when he gave away a free for in the back to Jetta in the third. The ball then went through another 2 sets of hands before Melbourne kicked a goal. I'd argue that he was in the air before he realised the ball was going to go over the heads anyway.

So here's a challenge for Andersons critics, help Meekster find the 3 goals Anderson gave up.

Please also state whether you were at the game or potentially influenced by Tim Lane's call on Ch 10. I counted 3 times he singled Joey out for errors in wet conditions in the third. IMO none of them cost us goals.

To provide some balance to your argument you may also point out the goals he saved in the 3rd quarter.

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hes still a big stiff lurker

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

also count the goals he helped set up in the first with his run and dash.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Cons:
Posts have had to be removed from this thread.

Pros:
our young players all continue to show improvement. Next year I expect them all to be little rippers!

So nice to see your post Mrs.Caz.
have been missing those eyes.

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Pro

walker
houlian
scotland
krezer/sauce
WAITE UP FORWARD - HE IS OUR ANSWER.IRISH FULL FORWARD - TAKE YOUR PIC FOR THE CRUMBNING FORWARDS - HENDO HANDY REPLACEMENT.
bower and armfield in for brown and anderson
thortan gets two more weeks in team, i wanna see him againist norths big man forward line and also the dockers, ill judge him afdter that..good game today by him.
hadley better than brock

Con

Wet weather football...we lost the 3rd quarter..little embarassing
no one mentioning how good ratten has been and is!
would had preferred gyberts to mclean and aslo would prefer gyberts to watts in my supercoach..
not live on wa tv...thank god for the odin.

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I doubt that very much.

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This post makes me want to move back to Melbourne....soon.

PROS: the 4 pts and the 6%...BBH's other half bottle of red with the 4 points under our belt.

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I agree with Marissa, but to answer her question "so why do we need McLean?".
We need McLean for insurance in case Hadley is injured.
Remember how we were going in the latter part of last year when a fit Hadley broke into the team and won us the hard contests and games?
Remember how much we missed Hadley after he broke his arm?

As for Kouta's comment about the Russian Car....

I think you'll find that Hadley has been available fully fit more than McLean this year.
I think you'll find the same pattern last year when McLean was at Melb and Hadley at Carlton.

This week, after the two of them played and showed their wares in round the 10 game, one was retained, the other dropped for round 11.
I wonder why? There's a message there.
McLean score 33 possessions against a skinny GC17 reserves team.
What does that say about McLean playing under an injury cloud?
He got dropped. Face it. There's the fact.
McLean is not playing at the level we expect from him in the seniors circa 2010.
Hadley is preferred when fit.

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Funny how most Carlton supporters think exactly the same way! Agree 100%

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I know Tim is a Carlton supporter, but he's become a bit of a dick commentator this year whether on TV or in the print.
He uses some of his Carlton knowledge, lets say as we all know Ando is a peripheral player, and blames team mistakes or in this case goals against on the peripheral player, when that was not the case. Tim Lane does speak a lot of shit week in week out. He's lost the plot or he's paid for (controversial) comments.

Anderson is no star yet, and he may never get the chance to do it at Carlton given the depth we have, but I liked the Anderson I saw yesterday the way he wanted to attack the lines and use his pace. He wasn't one of our best, but he showed good signs yesterday imo.

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How do you know that?

I think Barlow and Pods have turned the tables on that theory.

Retrospectively, I'd take Barlow ahead of McLean. Wouldn't you?

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'Think' is different to 'know'.

Most kids, are not AFL standard until they are developed sufficiently to be.
It's about patience and excellent coaching and facilities.
I could tell you a story of a kid called Jordan Russell; but I'm sure you're aware of him.

AFL is a tough business these days.
You've got to show your stuff really early, and in a team with a bit of depth, you may not even get a turn to do so.
There are plenty of kids who are delisted every year who would have made it in another 2-3 years in the system.
The system doesn't allow for the late developers.

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Are you sure you can't fit a few more negatives in there? Sorry did we get belted yesterday?

'Melbourne will be better than us in 3 years' - I don't know how you could have got that out of yesterday's game, but anyway...

A lot of supporters were wary/nervy of this game in the leadup and in previous years the team more often than not would play wary/nervy footy in games such as this.

To come out and play with discipline and determination that we did this week confirmed that the players have a greater belief in themselves now.

A great positive.

You have plucked one out of how many VFL players? Remember Kenna, he was from the VFL. I plucked one out to suit my arguement . Very easy to do isn't it.

Pods wouldn't be better than Santanta at Carlton. Teams like Geelong (good teams) can carry players. Look at how good Houla is now he is playing in a better side.

We picked a player with 90 odd games AFL experience and this is what we recruited, somewhere ready to go. Not some high risk player from the VFL. I am not saying we shouldn't look at the VFL but we would not find someone better. I can't wait until Brock gets his body right and proves all you short sighted people wrong.

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Yes, Brock could turn out to be handy if we can rehab his body.

Isn't that the match where Hampson, Kerr, Warnock and Tuohy reportedly showed a bit?

There are Carlton players in the VFL who aren't AFL fit, but are playing well at that level and will be players.

Why talk down Mclean who may have matched up against Daniel Harris?

If Gysberts had have had 30 touches against Gold Coast like Mclean and Grigg, you'd be reaching for Silas' whip and bemoaning the trade. .

Mclean isn't playing at the level we expected after he re-injured his hip last week.

Anyone who can get 19 touches in approximately half an AFL game isn't washed up.

Brock is a better kick than Hadley and Gysberts.

Because we need another outside midfielder?

I wouldn't swap Kerr, Lucas, White or Davies for Barlow, let alone Mclean.

Mclean was a trade to address a weakness in the middle.

Not sure if Barlow can play the same role.

Even Fremantle didn't rate Barlow as anything more than a rookie pick.

Barlow might be another Brad Dalziell and Liam Anthony who aren't scything kicks like Gibbs.

Robinson will have more impact than Barlow with ten touches and slam tackles.

I see where you're coming from.
19 possessions in 50% game time does suggest he's in the mix.
I take back the Barlow call too.

I haven't written Brock off nor the trade. What is, is.
I like players to be picked when fit and in form.
I haven't seen form from him that matches his reputation.
I reckon the selectors gave the nod to Hadley, imo was inevitable when both are fit.

I hope Brock gets his body right and does become the player we expect him to be and play week in, week out.
If he gets his body right and picks up his pace by hand and foot, he'll be a star again.
It's a tough position to play and Hadley and McLean's injury sheet is testimony to that.
I'm glad we've got both of them on our list; quality players when fit.

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Brock didn't re injure his hip... it was already an injury and will continue to be until he gets surgery on it.

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