Virgin Blue wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Yes, Waite is the answer up forward. Hendo is developing well, a great long term prospect whose time will come.
Is Waitey the "ideal" CHF/2nd marking tall? The answer is probably no, but he is the best option the CFC currently has and he'll do me just fine.
Please, give the thought of Waitey going back a rest, we are blessed to have Bower, Jamo, Tex as our first choice "talls" back there, with Aussie, White and Hendo as ripper back-ups.
Took 2 pages for some sense to kick in
Also agree.
First off, I think footy has changed and that 2 talls forward is now much more common than 3 talls. Most clubs have 2 talls playing forward, complimented by smalls and mids. Geelong went with Mooney, Hawkins and Pods for a while, and Hawkins couldn't get near it. they put him in the ruck and look at their form since.
OUr forward line functions so much better with 2 talls, Robinson / Houlihan as mids (Houlihan, and last week Carazzo, paying as defensive forwards), and the smalls. More dangerous, quicker, and the opposition don't run it out as easily, something we'd been frustrated by for years.
Similarly, our backline has started to look really dangerous with more run. There was a stage last year and the year before when we were playing Thornton, Jamison, Waite and Bower all back. Looks much better when we have 3 talls, including Bower who gives lots of run, alongside Russell / Armfield / Gibbs / Joseph etc.
For me, Waite's best position is on the wing. His second best position is playing the loose man across half back. That's provided he is allowed to play loose. His next best position is across half forward.
To me, our Premiership window is 3-5 years. By that time, our backline will be solid. Jamison will be, and is not far off now, an A-grade full back. I think Bower will be an A-grade CHB. I think White is already our best bet as a third tall, for me he has already moved past Thornton. For some reason, Thornton continually gets the ball and kicks it either sideways, backwards or to a 50-50 upfield. It's a shame. Perhaps it's years playing in a crap team that has taught him to be so negative in his decision making. If he can change that, he still has a part to play.
Then you have Austin and Thornton as backup talls down back.
Our midfield speaks for itself,in 3-5 years it will be the best going around. Lucas is going to add to that, whether played in midfield or across half back, he looks already to have been an inspired Wayne Hughes pick, given the clamour for a tall (and I admit to being amongst that clamour). Quite simply, Lucas looks like he belongs out there (as does White). Knows where to go, gets it often, uses is well, seems to have time.
The rucks similarly will be strong in 3-5 years. Kreuzer we know, and whether it is Jacobs or Hampson or Warnock, it will bne very strong. Of the 3, Jacobs looks the best for me. They are all young, they all have loads of development yet to get to where they need to be. But Jacobs to me looks like a footballer, the others not so much. Time will tell, but we will be strong enough inthe ruck to challenge.
That leaves the forward line, which to me is still our weakness. In the same way that the Dogs may have grabbed a flag inthe last 2 years had they had a go to tall up forward, we need one. O'hAilpin's progress has been fabulous, credit to him. But will he get to a level where he can be relied upon in a GF? Not sure,I fear not. I hope I'm wrong.
To me Henderson is a natural footballer. I think he'll turn into a very good CHF, but I also think that is 2-3 years away. My feeling is a long stint in the twos might be the best thing for him. He gets to the ball, he competes, he does all the things Fevola doesn't. But he's not holding marks, and his confidence isn't where it needs to be. A long stint in the twos, where he can dominate week after week, kick 4 or 5 every week, might be the best thing for his
long-term development.
The quetion is can we afford not to play him? That depends on Waite. If we play Waite as CHF, and I think that right now, he is better value there than Henderson, then Henderson can go back and dominate inthe twos. If we continue to play Henderson, then Waite is freed to play wing, across half back, or float forward. A nice position to be in.\
For me, right now, I'd let Henderson dominate for 1-2 months in the Bullants, and play Waite at CHF. Of course, that's an outsiders perspective. But right now, I think Waite is our best bet at CHF.