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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:58 am 
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@ anthopides .

In half a dozen posts in this thread , You've spelt your own name 4 different ways .

When you are trying to get across how incompetent Sticks is , your credibility goes out the back door . :donk:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:00 am 
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klakker wrote:
@ anthopides .

In half a dozen posts in this thread , You've spelt your own name 4 different ways .

When you are trying to get across how incompetent Sticks is , your credibility goes out the back door . :donk:


:lol:

He had some trouble logging in over the weekend too.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 3:22 pm 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
klakker wrote:
@ anthopides .

In half a dozen posts in this thread , You've spelt your own name 4 different ways .

When you are trying to get across how incompetent Sticks is , your credibility goes out the back door . :donk:


:lol:

He had some trouble logging in over the weekend too.

Some weird word play on the Ides of March?
Anthopiides, try logging in as Sinbad :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:04 am 
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Synbad wrote:
You never once explained what qualifications Sticks and Ratts have to make them elite in theor particular post.

Have you???

They wouldnt get a gig at any other club.....

Thats whats wrong with this club


I agree with Sticks, he has not had enough experience in boards of corporate and professional businesses that would in my mind be a pre requisite to being a president of a AFL club. A presidents role is governance and in this regard he is hopelessly inexperienced and should be removed from the role.

Ratts on the other hand has been a player and student under Parkin, been an assistant at melbourne, coached the VCFL representative side and Norwood to a grand final in his first year. He has also taken a side coached by a dual premiership coach that by all accounts finished last with only 4 wins to finals with a healthy percentage in just 2 years.

By what reckoning do you believe that Ratts is under performing? And who would you have replace him?


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:27 pm 
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klakker wrote:
@ anthopides .

In half a dozen posts in this thread , You've spelt your own name 4 different ways .

When you are trying to get across how incompetent Sticks is , your credibility goes out the back door . :donk:



while you are nitpicking the spelling of my name Carlton's season is destroyed by lack of leadership causing disastrous behaviour by the playing group
Anthopides


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:32 pm 
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Steve_C7 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
You never once explained what qualifications Sticks and Ratts have to make them elite in theor particular post.

Have you???

They wouldnt get a gig at any other club.....

Thats whats wrong with this club


I agree with Sticks, he has not had enough experience in boards of corporate and professional businesses that would in my mind be a pre requisite to being a president of a AFL club. A presidents role is governance and in this regard he is hopelessly inexperienced and should be removed from the role.

Ratts on the other hand has been a player and student under Parkin, been an assistant at melbourne, coached the VCFL representative side and Norwood to a grand final in his first year. He has also taken a side coached by a dual premiership coach that by all accounts finished last with only 4 wins to finals with a healthy percentage in just 2 years.


Leigh Mathews Ratts is a joke as a leader and along with Sticks are totally responsible for the lack of discipline in the club.

Anthopides

By what reckoning do you believe that Ratts is under performing? And who would you have replace him?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:54 am 
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anthopides wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
You never once explained what qualifications Sticks and Ratts have to make them elite in theor particular post.

Have you???

They wouldnt get a gig at any other club.....

Thats whats wrong with this club


I agree with Sticks, he has not had enough experience in boards of corporate and professional businesses that would in my mind be a pre requisite to being a president of a AFL club. A presidents role is governance and in this regard he is hopelessly inexperienced and should be removed from the role.

Ratts on the other hand has been a player and student under Parkin, been an assistant at melbourne, coached the VCFL representative side and Norwood to a grand final in his first year. He has also taken a side coached by a dual premiership coach that by all accounts finished last with only 4 wins to finals with a healthy percentage in just 2 years.


Leigh Mathews Ratts is a joke as a leader and along with Sticks are totally responsible for the lack of discipline in the club.

Anthopides

By what reckoning do you believe that Ratts is under performing? And who would you have replace him?


How about the time you you were campaigning for Scotland? Calling for his return even though he was way off the mark as far as doing the team things were concerned. Does scotland have the leadership qualities you are after?

I wouldnt be calling other people 'Jokes' if i were you Antipoidiez.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:00 am 
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anthopides wrote:
klakker wrote:
@ anthopides .

In half a dozen posts in this thread , You've spelt your own name 4 different ways .

When you are trying to get across how incompetent Sticks is , your credibility goes out the back door . :donk:



while you are nitpicking the spelling of my name Carlton's season is destroyed by lack of leadership causing disastrous behaviour by the playing group
Anthopides


save us from ourselves great anthropolidles

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:52 am 
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let's not antagonise people please.

Debate with him or leave it alone.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:24 am 
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..we do have a lack of leadership.. ..we have a very young list, with some future leaders.. ..the few older/more veteran players weren't too professional.. ..we were always gonna run into this 'gap' while our list ages.. ..that's what happens when you turn over a team list like we have this passed decade..

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:34 am 
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Mrs Caz wrote:
let's not antagonipides people please.

Debate with him or leave it alone.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:41 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..we do have a lack of leadership.. ..we have a very young list, with some future leaders.. ..the few older/more veteran players weren't too professional.. ..we were always gonna run into this 'gap' while our list ages.. ..that's what happens when you turn over a team list like we have this passed decade..

Good point BKB. What this has also emphasised then is the oft discussed poor off field leadership. A lack of established frameworks, expectations and follow through.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:58 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Mrs Caz wrote:
let's not antagonipides people please.

Debate with him or leave it alone.



:clap: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:05 pm 
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grrofunger wrote:
CK95 wrote:
Mrs Caz wrote:
let's not antagonipides people please.

Debate with him or leave it alone.



:clap: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:38 pm 
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anthopides wrote:
Steve_C7 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
You never once explained what qualifications Sticks and Ratts have to make them elite in theor particular post.

Have you???

They wouldnt get a gig at any other club.....

Thats whats wrong with this club


I agree with Sticks, he has not had enough experience in boards of corporate and professional businesses that would in my mind be a pre requisite to being a president of a AFL club. A presidents role is governance and in this regard he is hopelessly inexperienced and should be removed from the role.

Ratts on the other hand has been a player and student under Parkin, been an assistant at melbourne, coached the VCFL representative side and Norwood to a grand final in his first year. He has also taken a side coached by a dual premiership coach that by all accounts finished last with only 4 wins to finals with a healthy percentage in just 2 years.

By what reckoning do you believe that Ratts is under performing? And who would you have replace him?



Leigh Mathews Ratts is a joke as a leader and along with Sticks are totally responsible for the lack of discipline in the club.

Anthopides



You have to be seriously deluded if you think that Mathews is the answer to our leadership issues. I have the greatest respect for Mathews, but he is from a different era and chapter in AFL's history, he lost the respect from his players in Brisbane which led to his retirement an acknowledged that you have to coach young kids different these days as they are molly coddled from young and don't respond to being forceful with them.

What is a joke is all the posters on here blaming Ratts for the culture of the club over the last decade when he has only been in the senior position for 2 years of which he has sacked/retired Fev, Whitnall, Stevens, Cloke and Lappin. He has also dropped senior players who didn't follow the team rules and expectations and WE as OUTSIDERS don't know what further actions Ratts has tried to enforce on this list to correct the culture issues that we have.

Unless you know a bit more than we do as to how Ratts leadership is responsible for the lack of discipline in our club, I suggest that you show some respect to our coach, because from where I am sitting, he appears as the only person to be taking any action (I hope your listening Juddy!)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:28 am 
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Well the tying up of a new player and drinking him silly is Carlton tradition.
Only this time the almost passed out kids parents took it to the media.

Not sure if Stick Ratts dont know about this...... of course they do.

Its such a very professional tradition....

An older player teaching a younger player to drink.
Not to how to train... but to drink...


As a matter of fact.. what ever happened to the player that had Levi chained to him forcing him to drink till he almost passed out???


and everybody else that had a rookie chained to themselves???
Nothing...

Its a drinking culture!!!.. and the club should come down on it completely!!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:54 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Well the tying up of a new player and drinking him silly is Carlton tradition.
Only this time the almost passed out kids parents took it to the media.

Not sure if Stick Ratts dont know about this...... of course they do.

Its such a very professional tradition....

An older player teaching a younger player to drink.
Not to how to train... but to drink...


As a matter of fact.. what ever happened to the player that had Levi chained to him forcing him to drink till he almost passed out???


and everybody else that had a rookie chained to themselves???
Nothing...

Its a drinking culture!!!.. and the club should come down on it completely!!


Agree. The message re Betts et al was frightening....drinking is ok...just don't get arrested...or wander around in your jocks.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:39 am 
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TBH I didn't even know who was in our leadership group outside of Judd and Simmo. When I read Scotland, Fisher and Carrazzo I choked on tomato.

Any chance the Club will review our leadership group and start promoting some future leaders like Gibbs, Kreuzer, Murphy and JR?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:40 am 
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Synbad wrote:
As a matter of fact.. what ever happened to the player that had Levi chained to him forcing him to drink till he almost passed out???


I'm tipping when the AFL find out that player(s) will be punished also.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:04 pm 
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Rafalution wrote:
Synbad wrote:
As a matter of fact.. what ever happened to the player that had Levi chained to him forcing him to drink till he almost passed out???


I'm tipping when the AFL find out that player(s) will be punished also.
Casboult wouldn't be the only rookie chained to a senior player.
What about those watching on who did nothing?
Where do you stop?
My tip is Club officials were in touch with the AFL when the penalties were decided.
They might have even agreed to leave room for the AFL to assert itself by applying a bit more.

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