spot on taff.

what is wrong with people?
how old is houlihan?
how old is betts?
how old is walker?
these guys are old enough to know better, plain and simple.
stop blaming the culture
let these FEW take responsibility for there actions!!!!
if i carry on like the names above, would people blame the culture at my company?
what a lame excuse!!!!!!!!!!!
-sack houlihan
-drop betts and walker for the first 10 to 15 games.

So when the entire playing list is allowed on a booze boat...

and recruits are tied to senior players and made to match them drink-for-drink...

and there's no limit to how much is drunk...

and the players are let off at Docklands and all allowed to go their separate ways...

and three players get caught publicly doing dumb stuff because they're drunk as skunks...

it's entirely the fault of those three players, and not a deeper attitudinal problem within the club???

Yeah, right.

Those who landed in trouble are old enough to know better.

The kid matching the senior for drink is a stupid initiation game that should be outlawed. If the Houla, Walker and Betts didnt stuff up big time the initiation game would never have been raised by the media and like would go on just like it does at the other 15 clubs who play the same games.

The club should have been more aware of what was going on on the boat trip and tried to get an invite for some minders. They failed there but still there is no excuse for Betts Houla and Walker. They should be smarter than that.

Clubs and teams can bounce back pretty quickly after events like this. If the Blues want it bad enough they too can turn this around very quickly. Winning games usually sorts it out. People may even talk about the last week as a real turning point for the club.

club29 spot on mate!
still not sure why people are blaming the club when the club had no idea this cruise was happening!
guys are old enough to know better, then them take responsibility, lets move on and lets win some games.

So reports by all and sundry that it was a Club sanctioned cruise are all just lies?

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Why? ..all that's happened in the past is a public slap on the wrist or measily fine followed by a private/inhouse drink to smoothe things over.
That's all they've known.

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wow what a bunch of drama queens.
so about 5 guys got drunk in the off season..... ouch that must really hurt.

..or get the flick like Fev and Cloke. Weeks in the rezziez like Stevens and Scotland. Banned for a few games like Fev a couple of seasons back. Completely humiliated like Angwin and Croad.
There is enough out there for these blokes to know to do their best to avoid trouble for their own sakes. IF they think they can get away with it then they should know better. Its not like they are 15 years old.

Why weren't we trading the likes of Fev, Heater and Stevo when they had a bit of currency?? ..nah the culture's not THAT bad mate

Not even 'inhouse' Carlton could possibly cover for nutters like Angwin and Norman. They just had to go.

A few weeks in the ressies? pfft! ...'we were shit anyway' so they weren't missing anything...

wet lettuce leaf stuff...

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Tomatoes tomatoes.

The players know that if they stuff up they will damage the club and their own careers yet they still managed to do it. Now they will pay. Fev paid....stevo paid.....Cloke paid......and Scotland paid....betts and garlett paid............Hurley and Lovett-Murruy (eccies) seems to have gotten away with it though.

seems like a culture problem to me.

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call it what you want. the best way to change things is to keep on punishing and perhaps purging the club of those who cross the line.

I agree start with the president.

And im aall for a hard stance to binge drinking.

Might even save a life

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A lot of people are saying ban drinking and all that sort of stuff but there would have to be laws against such things you would think. Work cant take over lives that much. Next they will be getting them to play footy on good friday. Of course there is nothing stopping the coach from favouring those who want to get the best out of themselves.

Encouraging a healthy well balanced life would be the way to go. These are young men that should be able to make there own decisions with their lives. The blues need to make sure they know that what they choose to do affects the club and if its in a negative way they will be out.

Synbad, Find me a suitable person who wants the President gig and i will be right there with you calling for a switch. I am sure Kernahan would be also. Until then the Pres, Board, CEO, Coach and players have my full support and i look forward to them as a unit doing what they think is best for the club and taking us forward.

if they get two weeks off and decide to make complete tools out of themselves for 2-3 days but keep clean during the year, what do i care?

they do need to be careful in the public eye as corporate sponsorship is vital to every club; but im not going to forbid them from being human - making mistakes, having fun and making idiots out of themselves for those two weeks so what?
they're footballers not rhodes scholars.. they struggle to string one coherent sentence.

providing they're super fit during the season i have no issue... but no more than their allocated time off or im on the synbad bandwagon.

i trust the board know what theyre doing...

Spending $$$$$$ getting Leading Teams in to rescue themselves from themselves......?

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Well Lovett-Murray was cleared and Hurley has yet to face trial.

Alot of childish sh!t about nothing. Get over it. Must be nothing people's lives to get wound up about this. Disapprove yes, go on about it forever, well, there's something wrong.

As long as life goes well on the field, as it has all the way through to the Bullants, then I don't care for much else. Club's problems. We need to look no further than our captain in learning how to win a flag with a "bad " culture.

Fishguts I don't think even Hurley or the Essendon* spin machine deny Hurley getting pissed and robbing and bashing a taxi driver Fair step up from drinking games getting out of control on a Xmas party cruise and Fevola's drunken lude comments at the Brownlow.
No doubt the AFL will turn the other cheek like when the Bombers got done for salary cap cheating and load up on Carlton
How is the Tigers Cap investigation going? hmm I guess it's not

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