Three words.....HEAD IN SAND

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

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This Swan(n)'s made for you!

Swann's the best in the business, thats why Pratty got him for us. He has a plan he always has. I have the feeling MAYBE that Fev may be suspended when the journo comes forward. so MAYBE we will get Hendo pick 12 Which i hope is Daniel Talia, AND BRADSHAW. AND Vossy gets a suspended player that didnt really wanna play for them. and pick 27 that in this years draft may probaly be a dud. NOT to mention a large chunck out of there cap. Show some faith he did get us Juddy.

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LACHIE 23

I'm pissed off as well Eric and BlueRob, the only difference is that I'm pissed off with Fev.

Fev put our club in this position, not the club.

Do you think the club wanted to get rid of him before Brownlow night? NO

Fev stuffed up big time, embarrased the club we all love. Fev will be remembered as an exciting footballer but he will also be remembered for being a dick!

Embarrassed the club ... big deal .... we are talking football ... sucked in by the media hype.

A suspension would have done. If he has broken the law like John Nicholls did or screwed the clubs finances like Elliot well yea ... we do something. If the assault "allgations" are correct the police will deal with him .. and rightly so. But the clubs responsibility is to win a premiership. And don't give me this club culture crap ... I just don't believe it ... plenty of examples.

Like I said .. badly, badly handled ... and if you want to talk about embarrassment ... just see what we have given away next year. Brisbane must be laughing so hard.

Sucked in Blues.

Badly Done .. Mr Swan.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

I appreciate your passion BR... but forgetting about the circumstances in which the trade came about (if thats possible), this trade has been a smart list management decision.

Henderson, a CHF, pick #8 in a good draft and someone who has shown massive promise + a good draft pick (#12) for a guy (albiet a superstar) with 3 years of good footy left and a speculative second rounder will strengthen our list.

Just take a breath, stop listening to your mates telling you the blues are rooted without Fev, buy a 2010 membership, and have some faith.

Would you still feel the same if you knew Fev was holding the club back from the ultimate prize?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Those who put the club culture issue foremost and support the trading of Fevola will do so at the expense of on field performances for a season.

But those that did not support trading Fevola are in favour of a point of view that would have meant that we failed to develop a post Fev forward line structure.

Maybe it is in the minds of the proponents of either point of view - but the reality will be that nothing will be clear cut.

It is a descision that will not necessarily see the advantages spruiked by either side of the debate turn out in the exact way that they perceive.

My concern was that we were going to sell Fevola off in a fire sale and disadvantage the club during a time when the best young footballers are going to gold coast - and so rob us of the proper opportunities needed to restructure the forward line

However Henderson and pick 12 have done a lot to alleviate these worries. The fact that Hampson is tall and quick off the mark helps us too.

But it will take a collective effort to replace the footballing talent that Fevola brought to Carlton

So this will not mean that Carlton will avoid one or two backward steps before moving ahead.

But the knowledge that our trade has meant that there will be a very good upside to all this will provide succour.

When this issue is re visited in the fullness of time, it will look like Carlton traded well for Fev and that we anticipated the problems associated with a post Fevola forward line ahead of time.

But the reality will be that those on control were poised to take a lesser trade in Bradshaw and Rishcatelli and it was only individual player circumstances that prevented them from doing so.

Good fortune instead of good management.

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My Blue Heaven

I dont. Those who blindly ignore Fevs antics and blame Swann and the administration are fooling themselves. Ignoring culture within a football club and its ramifications displays a total lack of understanding of the workings of a contemporary sporting organisation. You simply cannot achieve success without everyone working in the same direction.
I'm glad he's gone. It's time to move on and support the Carlton Football Club.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Geez after reading this thread, to me there are two types of Carlton supporters:

Those that have a flowering clue (support Swanny and co)

And those that want our proud, mighty club to look like a bunch of piss weak, lettuce leaf wielding whooses.

To the second bunch all i have to say is grow up and put the pie in the oven.

You will be eating it (humbley) ... sooner than you think.

Geez Swanny and co ... from a Fev lover you have my full support and admiration for your stand ... enough was enough .... and about flowering time!

Lets move forward to a premiership and not backwards to oblivion.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

My thoughts are this BlueRob.

At the end of all this, you've been a member for 45 years. I've been a member for nearly 10, and a supporter since 1982.
You've seen a lot of water go under the bridge. So have I.
At the end of all this you reckon the decision is boneheaded. I reckon it is good.
Probably 25% of posters agree with you. Probably 75% of posters agree with me.

At the end of it all, there's nothing that I can point to which says that I am right. Equally there is nothing you can point to which says you are right. People's positions on this site are pretty entrenched, and we can all run around and argue the same points over and over again until the start of next season. Other than helping to blow off steam, it isn't really getting anyone anywhere.

The reality is that an objective evaluation of whether or not the club was right can't be made until the end of next season. More realistically, it should be about 3 seasons, by which time we'll know most if not all of Fev's output for the Lions and will begin to understand Henderson's output for the Blues. We'll then know who was right and who was wrong.

In the meantime, all I can do is to encourage you to continue to support the club through your membership and your participation in voting for board elections. Wait and see how it all plays out, and then vote accordingly.

Now how about we move back onto something we can all agree on? Like how important Waite's return will be to the side? Or just how promising Matty Kreuzer looks? I think we've all sweated enough on the Fev deal now to last us for a lifetime.

Here's to a successful Carlton line-up in 2010!

we need to support the club with the decision they have made regarding brendan.As good a player he is,its a team game and we need the whole playing list to be playing as a team.Then and only then can we build a list that wants to work towards winning our 17 flag.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

AGREED. Those who say that developing a forward line without Fev and preparing a succession plan is all crystal ball gazing are the same folk who will tell you that the club will take 5 years to recover/worst decision/lost our premiership window blah blah flowering blah. Isn't that crystal ball gazing as well???????
His move to Brissie has already had an affect on Bradshaw and Rischitelli.
He has no-one to blame except himself. Fev is history. Fev is a lion. He's gone. Get over it FFS

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Was he holding them back when he got his new 3 year 2.1 million dollar contract or did the holding back the club occur more recently?

Why did Swann and co give him a 3 year 2.1 million dollar contract? This has been going on with Fev for years. We would have got a hell of a better deal if we traded him 2008.

If Fevola had stayed - it wouldnt had started some kind of terminal culture cancer at the club.

But the fact is that Fevola is in the last third of his career - so letting him go was OK provided that the compensation was satisfactory.

The fact is that there was a looming need for some kind of succession plan whether he stayed or whether he moved on.

It would have been far worse to keep him but do nothing about developing what is required for the post Fevola era.

Isnt that what the road that Richmond went down with their dependancy on Mathew Richardson?

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My Blue Heaven

Couldn't agree more. Fev should have got the flick years ago.
The trouble is he's always held the whip hand. In past years we've either hads to sign him up or lose him for nothing. The years he's been in contract, he's screwed up and diminished his value.
Fev is either very smart or he's a very lucky fool.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Probably, but imagine the response if he was traded in 2008?

btw im not disagreeing with you... just saying that what "should" have been done was never gong to happen.

The deals done, no point talking about what could have been.