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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:55 pm 
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Being 4 goals down is hardly "things going our way", IMO.

I guess it's a matter of perspective.

Besides, we could definitively prove that Wallet was wrong, and he'd still argue he was right. He's that kind of guy.


Correct again. Things were going our way 25min in to the StKilda match when we were 0-30. It was easy to get back into that game.

Then there was the Hawks where we were 25 down 20 minutes into the last??

I hear voices coming out of Terry's bottom again.

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Step 1 in Terry's plan to try and convince people he was a gun coach, just didn't have the cattle...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:11 pm 
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The Duke wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Being 4 goals down is hardly "things going our way", IMO.

I guess it's a matter of perspective.

Besides, we could definitively prove that Wallet was wrong, and he'd still argue he was right. He's that kind of guy.


Correct again. Things were going our way 25min in to the StKilda match when we were 0-30. It was easy to get back into that game.

Then there was the Hawks where we were 25 down 20 minutes into the last??

I hear voices coming out of Terry's bottom again.


No silly, he means when the game swings from the oppositions momentum to ours (and the way the game is these days, momentum does swing), we can really turn it on and punish the opposition.

ie. when we are on, we are hot, but when we are not, we don't know how to tighten a game

I can't see how any of that is wrong. Forget its Wallace saying it.... I mean, a thousand monkeys working on a thousand computers for a thousand days will come up with that observation, but doesn't make it any less true.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:19 pm 
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bluechucky wrote:
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Being 4 goals down is hardly "things going our way", IMO.

I guess it's a matter of perspective.

Besides, we could definitively prove that Wallet was wrong, and he'd still argue he was right. He's that kind of guy.


Correct again. Things were going our way 25min in to the StKilda match when we were 0-30. It was easy to get back into that game.

Then there was the Hawks where we were 25 down 20 minutes into the last??

I hear voices coming out of Terry's bottom again.


No silly, he means when the game swings from the oppositions momentum to ours (and the way the game is these days, momentum does swing), we can really turn it on and punish the opposition.

ie. when we are on, we are hot, but when we are not, we don't know how to tighten a game

I can't see how any of that is wrong. Forget its Wallace saying it.... I mean, a thousand monkeys working on a thousand computers for a thousand days will come up with that observation, but doesn't make it any less true.


Doesn't make it any more true either.

I just don't think Wallace has made an observation of any value or insight.

When any team is on, they're on.

Wallet claims to be talking about the whole season, yet funnily enough only comments after we get beaten. 20/20 hindsight, I think.

How would you define "tighten a game"? Get a lead then just turn the match to crap, like Sydney?

If losing a few matches against better teams, and playing good attractive footy is the alternative, then I'd be happy to go with the way our gameplan is developing.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:43 pm 
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This should be moved to the 'shit commentary' thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:41 pm 
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Let's hope Teflon's words stick with our boys for the rest of the year.

He's spot on.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:36 pm 
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Agreed GH.

It's just a bit hard to take from a bloke who hasn't been able to coach such things into teams for nearly a decade...

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:30 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
Doesn't make it any more true either.

I just don't think Wallace has made an observation of any value or insight.

When any team is on, they're on.

Wallet claims to be talking about the whole season, yet funnily enough only comments after we get beaten. 20/20 hindsight, I think.

How would you define "tighten a game"? Get a lead then just turn the match to crap, like Sydney?

If losing a few matches against better teams, and playing good attractive footy is the alternative, then I'd be happy to go with the way our gameplan is developing.


What he's talking about is locking things down when we don't have momentum. Its not about the score and whether we're ahead or behind.

When we have momentum, we're great. Everyone can run forward of the ball confident that things are going our way and we're more than likely to win it. Our midfield is damaging.

Where we need to improve, and what Wallace is talking about, is when the opposition have the momentum. Our midfielders need to be accountable and lock the game down. We don't do that. We still run forward of the ball and don't push back or chase.

If you can put your hatred of Wallace aside its not difficult to see his point and why he's correct.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:49 pm 
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I cannot stand the way our players hang back once the Ump has called play on.
We allow the opposition time to make decisions and buy time.
Opposition teams would not know what hit them if our players actually ran at them and applied pressure.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:01 pm 
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Terry is just throwing out crap to create controversy so he can boost ratings for SEN. Everybody knows that Terry knows less that S.F.A about the game, so he needs to find some kind of avenue in which to attract listeners............. so he's going about it the cheap way!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:07 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:
Terry is just throwing out crap to create controversy so he can boost ratings for SEN. Everybody knows that Terry knows less that S.F.A about the game, so he needs to find some kind of avenue in which to attract listeners............. so he's going about it the cheap way!


What about the points he's made ryan? I don't think we've been doing it all game but there are times when the opposition can stroll from defence to forward and deliver it to someone or take a shot on goal.

It isn't just the accountability, it's also the way we seem to run backwards towards the defensice 50 instead of pushing up towards the ball carrier and trying to turn the ball over.

Surely you'd rather win the ball back between the arcs or inside your forward 50 than letting players have a shot on goal or deliver to a forward. At times we don't flood that well...we may have plenty of players back but some have lost concentration and don't actually drop in front of the leading forward.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:32 pm 
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When we hold the ball up, isn't that to swing the momentum our way and lock the game down?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:42 pm 
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Hahaha, Terry Wallet making comments about our team.... :lol: :lol:

Funniest thing I've read in ages... keep up the funny work Terry.

Guess Juddy and co never had to worry about running the other way against Richmond in rd 1, the ball never went that way.

Terry is a very bitter man and knows the rd 1 game was the nail in the coffin on his "so called" coaching career.

If David Parkin or Leigh Matthews came out and made those comments then we need to listen, but Terry, come on, this guy has no credibility or coaching skills at all.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:46 pm 
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bosman wrote:
Terry is a very bitter man and knows the rd 1 game was the nail in the coffin on his "so called" coaching career.


:lol: :lol:

Plenty of people on here reckon they're right about everything and feel the need to tell everyone. They'd all be just as good a coach as Wallace too. Absolute shiteful.

That's why we don't listen to him.

That's why we don't listen to them.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:48 pm 
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Effes wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
Terry is just throwing out crap to create controversy so he can boost ratings for SEN. Everybody knows that Terry knows less that S.F.A about the game, so he needs to find some kind of avenue in which to attract listeners............. so he's going about it the cheap way!


What about the points he's made ryan? I don't think we've been doing it all game but there are times when the opposition can stroll from defence to forward and deliver it to someone or take a shot on goal.

It isn't just the accountability, it's also the way we seem to run backwards towards the defensice 50 instead of pushing up towards the ball carrier and trying to turn the ball over.

Surely you'd rather win the ball back between the arcs or inside your forward 50 than letting players have a shot on goal or deliver to a forward. At times we don't flood that well...we may have plenty of players back but some have lost concentration and don't actually drop in front of the leading forward.


Oh yeah. sure......there could well be some truths to his point, but i don't buy this crap about him just having an opinion............. he's doing it just to announce himself as a commentator. I guess, if he throws some controversial topics out there, well........... if people start listening, they'll forget he clearly knows nothing about football. :roll:

Terry Wallace sold Richmond on a lie - and that's been proven. If anything, he's so called 5 year plan has set them back 5 years rather than delievered them anything worthy of note.


I aggree Murphy needs to add a defensive side to his game, but...........for a coach who's just been sacked and picked up in the media to call a player who's averaging 30 possesions a game and has kicked 30 goals for the season (11 more than Swan and 15 more than Selwood) a DOWNHILL SKIER???????????? Well, it's just a massive cry for attention if you ask me.

"Hey everybody LOOK - It's Me......TERRY WALLACE........ I'm a commentator now....... LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!!" :razz:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:52 pm 
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Lets face it, he was right about us on Saturday.

Our players are sometimes very very lazy, its like they are going for a stroll on the park. They didn't throw themselves at the ball, they stand back and watch the same players over again get the ball for them.

I don't understand. Some of our players don't appreciate what it takes to win games against hard working teams. This is why we never beat well drilled teams like Adelaide.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:11 pm 
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My reaction on the weekend was "downhill skiers" and while I think Murphy is a prime example, he wasn't the only one. Terry Wallace just confirmed what I thought anyway.
We have some talent, but this was the reality check for this year.
We cannot yet compete with Porplyzia, edwards and Mcleod type players yet.
They are not only skillful but are also good readers of their opposition's weaknesses

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graemep wrote:
We cannot yet compete with Porplyzia, edwards and Mcleod type players yet.
They are not only skillful but are also good readers of their opposition's weaknesses


Key word: Experience.

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Fevola wrote:
Lets face it, he was right about us on Saturday.


It wasn't just Saturday, it was the same in the melbourne game, but the difference there was that Melbourne was too shiteful to do anything about it.

Judd was horrid that day, no intensity and no defensive pressure. Opposition players just streamed past him. I was very disappointed in his game that day.

We are capable of going both ways.... its just a state of mind. Its something we HAVE to rectify if we want more than a weeks worth of finals.

The (justified) hatred of Wallace has blinded some of you to the truth of his words.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:44 pm 
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I was actually listening to SEN when Dermie and Teflon made the comments
It was just part of the normal dribble these blokes come out with whilst calling a game

When the score was 30 to 8 they all commented how Carlton was in trouble and it was only a matter of time before the Crows run us down

Must have been fairly obvious to everyone there that the intesisty was way down

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