Did you pay any attention to the conditions that ripped a sign off the fence and pulled JK's straight kick wide for a point?

For a big man, JK's skills, mobility and second efforts were terrific in those conditions.

Fevola would have been the right move to make from our point of view, but WCE were right to get Kennedy who will play 150 games and be a team player.

NicNat said he knew he'd be alright against the Hawks physical play because WC had JK there.

I hated watching that game after Kennedy laid tackles and snapped an important goal in the last quarter.

With Kreuzer floating forward like Ottens, we could have had a similar set up to Geelong with Waite, Kennedy, Betts, Walker, Garlett and Yarran inside fifty.

That group would have played together for six years and contend with our midfield feeding them.

Oh well...

When you originally posted about Kennedy, he'd only had one disposal.

Now, I don't want to sound like a smart arse, but I've been driving the trade fev bus since about 2005. Initially I wanted to see him secure Judd, then a top 20 pick or two, but now I think we could have one last shot at it. Trade Fev to Sydney for O'Keefe. Same age, similar paypacket similar worth.

the one thing Sydney will need next year and beyond is a crowd pulling FF. Hall has now signed his last contract and won't be offered another. Micky O has gone and they have lost all their fire power.

We, on the other hand, have had enough of a sooky baby that is a distraction and a liability and will not become the leader we were hoping for.

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I don't think Sydney are that stupid they are not going to get rid of one flower and replace him with another
Fev is basically un tradable and has been for several years he has been offered up several times with no takers
last year was the time on the back of his 99 goals
Parkin Brittain Pagan Ratten and a host of assistants couldn't get through to him no one will now
It could be said that Ratts has got the best out of him

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Yes I would. A top 3 pick won't replace a 100 goal forward....duh!!!!!!!!!!

How do you plan to replace him? We don't even have a CHF. Think!!!! He'll play a number a good one's, everyone loves him, has a bad "Fev" one and the same people want to get rid of him. You wonder why I don't respect many supporters. All carry on like idiots after a loss. I'm guessing you second team is Richmond.

Not only that he's contracted for 2 more years on big bikkies, his estranged wife is pregnant and he probably doesn't want to go to the Gold Coast.

He sooks every so often but between those he plays alot of good games. It's why he kicked 99 goals. Worked that out? Obviously not.

Couldn't care what bus you're driving, you're talking drubble. Fact is he's never wanted to go. Hence you can't force him. What idiot will get rid of a 99 goals, with no CHF, and trade him for a midfielder....duh!!! You're a thinker!!! Fev's been great for this club. Some are just too plain stupid to work that out. I laugh at this rubbish.

He's contracted for 2 more years at 700k a year, get used to it. He's not going anywhere.

Jim you might have noticed something
Fevs not going anywhere so get used to it
and at the same time
Carltons not going anywhere so get used to that as well

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Forgotten about that humble pie I dished you?

Just striking whilst the iron his hot

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Hope you enjoy the next dish.

O'Keefe would be handy playing next to Fev. Not sure if he'd be handy playing AS Fev.

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The time to trade was the 2006 superdraft.

So are we now going to trade him and then wait four years for another key forward to develop (if there's one worth drafting with our first pick)?

Part of the problem is Fev (not chasing) and the other is a lack of options.

Watching St Kilda tonight you see Riewoldt and Koschitzke consistently have one on one contests.

Ask yourself how many one on one contests does Fev ever get? Defenders know they can't zone off Kosi and go to Riewoldt because Kosi will kick a bag.

Who do defenders worry about besides Fev?

I watched Geelong play Port today...Mooney was @#$%&! woeful and has been in recent weeks.

Yet he had Chapman, S Johnson and Ablett there to make up for his poor performance. So Mooney's poor performance doesn't get highlighted as much because they won and because he had others to take the pressure off him.

Fev has no other credible forward teamate. Betts improvement this year has been terrific but he isn't a marking option. Fisher and O'hAilpin don't have the consistency/simply aren't good enough.

So why don't we try to add more forward options? It is tough with the draft in that a key forward might not be worth picking in with our first pick but I'm not sure how we can be successful until we develop more options.

I don't think Kreuzer is a sustainable option either - he can have stints up forward but I don't think he has enough mobility to play consistently up forward.

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You looked at the stats?

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

Stats are as honest as an email from Godwin Grech.

Hawthorn had their zone working in the first half, so WC couldn't get the ball to Kennedy cleanly.

Priddis was butchering the ball.

I was watching the game when your imagination posted on TC. Mobile, selfless and skilled...doing what?

Being in the news is very important to our Fev. See today's Herald Sun two page spread. Perhaps it is the most important thing.
Would he cop a Hamill type role across half forward with occasional stints at full forward? It's not as high profile as being the go to man.
We may be surprised by who else could step up to a role at full forward given the opportunity.

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Playing a Hamill-type role would involve playing with heart, continually making a contest, and not whinging at every second opportunity.

But an interesting proposal i.g.

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He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

By trading Fev you create options, by targetting replacements via trade and recruting replacements via the draft.

Yes it might take an extra year or 3 to get it together but establishing a mutli-pronged forward line with a view to 3yrs time compared to a Fevola forward line in 3yrs time when he retires is far more appealing IMO.

Pretty well put.

Unfortunately I think we have very little choice - Fev's contract and flower baggage will make it very difficult to get interest and to work a deal.

BTW McKenna said today (not refering to any player) something to the effect of: We don't want to pick someone up who'll be 31 when our window opens in 2013, so forget GC.

If the Dogs fall short again due to no key forwards, they are the perfect target in terms of needs and "window". They can finally drop Skipper and Welsh from their list! The problem will be their salary cap. they'd think Dogs + Fev = Flag. They'd bite I think, and Fev would relish the way the ball comes in plus premiership contention.

radio in perth today was talking up fev to sydney like it was a done thing

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.