I think if Fev ( and Thornton) was not so obvious when he tries to milk the frees he would get a few more. Buddy gets a much harder run from the umps then Fev. If you saw the Adelaide game you would see why.

Murph is one who gets a great run from the umps mainly because he knows how to play for frees to perfection and doesnt make it too obvious.

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Koperek.

The chopping of the arm rule and the hands in the back rule were introduced to ensure the forwards got a fair run at the ball.

If they are only going to pay these free kicks to half the forwards in the competition then dont have the rule.

Certain trollsters around here love talking about calling it as they see it until it comes to a point that doesnt suit them - certain trollsters can take Don Lane's advice to James Randi.

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Winston Churchill

Fev missed out on at least a couple blatant frees for on Friday night. No doubt the umpires have it in for him and he does himself no favours.

On a side note imagine if we had a CHF. The opposition backmen would be stretched to the limit and Fev would have it a lot easier.

Fev made his own bed in this regard.......now he has to sleep in it and only has himself to blame. Unfortunately for us it impacts on the team as well.

Just on a side note one of our esteemed posters brought up the issue of Fev's extra weight and the impact that it was having on his game a few weeks ago. Darren Glass is no easy push over at the best of times but Fev out bodied him in several one on one duels on Friday night.
On Fev's treatment with the umpires some of them would need his head to fall off before he got a free but generally speaking the umpires have obviously been instructed to pay less frees so the hands in the back rule, the chopping of the arms and holding the ball rule are not interpreted as strictly these days.

The comments regarding Fev having to only blame himself for not getting the frees he deserves is unbelieveable given that umpires are meant to be impartial.

It is irrelevant whether Fev whinges or not, if the free is there, they MUST pay it.

If the umpires cannot be impartial, then they need to find another line of work.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

This is what astounds me as well in relation to certain posts about Fev. It's as if an incident simply doesn't warrant a free kick on the basis that Fev is an 'idiot' or 'whinger' etc. The fact is that should be completely irrelevant.

An incident either merits the awarding of a free kick, or it does not. Each incident is to be assessed in total isolation, impartially and in accordance with the rules of the game.

Regardless of the player involved, it is either a free kick or it is not!

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Formerly Blues-Back2003.

Could not agree more

And that is exactly what I was talking about ... we all know what Fev is like but the issue is that an umpire is impartial ... and that really does not seem to be the point with Fev. I could not help wondering if , with some of the blantant frees on Friday, happened to a Roughhead, Bradshaw or a "cleancut" forward whether they would have been paid.

Sadly I believe they would have, which is the point I was trying to make.

In the end it just brings the umpiring into disripute and gives a job that when done properly should never be reported on (yes thankless but thier career choice!) unnecessary coverage.

Am I upset with the maggots ... darn tootin!

For whatever reason, Fev is at the same stage Lockett was towards the end of his career. Nothing short of a shotgun attack will be paid to him.

Fev can help his cause though. If he can learn not to carry on when he doesn't get a free, over time, we can only hope it becomes so damn obvious, that the umpires realise what they are doing.

I'd also like to see the club make a video of all of his infringements, for and against, and seek a meeting with Gieschen seeking a 'please explain'.

If all that fails, get Judd to go on the footy show and call one of them a cheat, cop a fine and get a free ride for the next 5 years ala Essendon*.

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Whoops! Sorry....I think I logged on to the Collingwood forum by mistake

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Love tells me I am everything
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Well in this picture (where the camera man is) is looks to be a blatent free kick. However you may notice that the umpire which would be on the side would have the arm holding obstructed by Pres's body. Good defence though not exactly within the rules of the game.

But the umps are not always impartial when umpiring Fev. I think they enjoy making him spit the dummy.

It takes a blatant free kick for Fev to get one but very little for Fev to give one away.

I do agree that he needs to play to the whistle more and not just expect the free kick to be paid to him. Surely he knows by know what to expect.

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I support the Navy Blues whatever happens!

Agree.


If only all users here were treated according to that philosophy by the TC umps.

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There's so much I could say...

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Isn't it amazing how the footy landscape changes when Fev finally gets some frees that everyone else gets?

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WADA medical director Dr Alan Vernec describes Essendon* FC drug case as biggest scandal in team sport the world of sport has seen. #WC2WB

#GUILTY

I think the maggots luv Fev...

Absolutely astounded by the Brisbane game .... umps must have read this thread!

He finally gets some protection and look what happens .. well I willbe quite for the week regarding Fev's treatment ... no complaints this week

Shouldn't have to be one week out of 118 - should be every week.

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Winston Churchill

I couldn't belive some of the things the commentators were saying about the free kicks Fev was recieving.

The clear push in the back was bagged for being soft even though a hand placed on the back of any forward (except Fev) has been punished for two years now.

Fev was scragged with a clear jumper hold where the jumper was clearly stretched and they whinged about that too. "Nothing in it" my ass. Unbelievable stuff.