Cos there are no real checks and balances in the whole set up and the process..

Now maybe if Ratts was someone else.. and had won our prized coaching job.. (cos i dunno about you or others who think its something to just give away.....).. but i think it should be a prize and treated like one...

... maybe if the due dilligence was made and someone actually won our PRIZED JOB.. the man who is in charge of turning young men into champions and this club into a champion side.. id be more believing..

But unfortunately the job was treated like a lotto ticket and was gifted to a mate... without all the checks and balances put int place.. and all due dilligence required to pay respect to what is one of the three most crucial positions at the club.
So how can i believe in him?

And over and above that because those in power handing the position out as cheaply lose credibility also.

Cos thats how it goes...

Now Sticks can duck and weave about bringing in O'Reilly to the club .. and once when asked if he was responsible he did the predictable thing and replied "We were all responsible for bringing OReilly to the club"
The person that asked him the question asked again... "All; of you?"
"All of us " answered Sticks.
To which the guy that asked the question replied if all of you can get together and make that decision without a single person arguing he wasnt even a regular player.. the lot of you should fall onto your swords"

See its all about common sense isnt it?
Whilst it might be a good idea on the surface to just appoint Ratten ... the common sense approach would be to do it right... and that way whoever gets wins job has no questions over his suitability....

Its always answers like "Parkin thinks he was the right man"... its pretty funny and sad at the same time....

I hope Ratts turns it around... but really hes always going to be under the pump unless he can turn it around as his position was delivered to him without due dilligence.
And the decision makers should not be allowed to decide on crucial matters concerning the club in that manner again... its detrimental to our great club and its not very hard to turn into a Richmond...

Terrible decisions in the past have cost us in our modern history... we dont need them perpetuatiing themselves cos of a Boys Club mentality.

Ratts can right it ... but he will need to win a flag!!!

I'm reading this thread and had to look to see what thread I was in as it seems errirly like the Ratts can't coach thread.

Or perhaps the same argument going on in that thread is also going in here.

I don't think you hope Ratts turns it around at all to be honest. You want Sticks gone and by extension Ratts as well.

Just as it can be argued that some are giving Ratten too much leeway due to past service to the club, to you he will always be tainted due to his links to Sticks and his questionable selection process. I totally agree that due diligence wasn't done and that was a worry, but that also doesn't mean he can't coach. Despite evidence to the contrary in the first half against the Crows

I also agree with your statements in other threads that you don't surround an inexperienced coach with inexperienced assistants. The Lappo appointment to me was a puzzling one. I'm not sure how being a key member of the worst team in our history, who used an antiquated gameplan (only slight exaggeration ) gets you a gig. Not to mention being put in charge of the forwards when he is good mates with Fev Teague's appointment could also be questioned, but from what I have seen he is a very impressive young man, who communicates well and seems to be doing a good job with the Ants. He could be an example of the appointment process being wrong, but the outcome being right Time will tell.

You raise some good points Synbad, but just like those who you see as Ratten apologists, you have your own biases. I really don't think Ratten will ever win you over... no matter what he does.