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 Post subject: Re: Expectations
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:34 pm 
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Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Synbad wrote:
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Synbad wrote:
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Synbad wrote:
anfield wrote:
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I thought we would lose to Freo Essendon* and Swans for sure...

I thought we would be a third of the way into the new season and we still have the same problems as last year... for sure...

I thought this season was going to be a tough season for sure.. cos alot of great clubs would be putting their hand up ... for sure....

Were seriously underperforming.... no matter how you wanna look at things...

Its not just about the points.. but its about how the team is gelling...

We have probems creating space... we have problems moving the ball fluid.. and we dont have a structure into our forward line...

Defensively we have blokes who dont have a clue how to defend over their heads...blokes that touch peoples backs when they shouldnt... blokes that are unaccountable... blokes that dont run into the right positions... blokes that are still not passing off to others in the right positions cos others arent in the right positions... blokes that wont be organised to be on the goal side of a ball up or kick into our fifty... blokes that just fall into someones back when tackling...etc etc etc
Sure we might make the eight.. but we wont make the eight cos we know what were doing.. its cos its a weak comp....


Is correct. We still lack quality in the forward line and down back. I'll be happy with 7 or 8. I dont think we are any better than that at the moment. Warnock's injury has been very costly. Some baffling selections in the last 2 weeks, why was Bentley picked? Why was Sentanta dropped? The team selection this week is going to be very, very interesting too.


Sure we should be a better team with Warnock injury free and playing good consistent footy.. but i dont think the problem is in the playing personel...its with whats been done with them....


You actually do believe we have a very good list don't you?...All this time I thought you were being sarcastic....dude you cannot be serious can you? Do you believe in the existence of talent? Or do you believe we are all born with the ability to be talented in all things?

Take a serious look at our list and then go out on a limb and imagine yourself coaching them (not some two bit drone who knows nothing about footy) and tell me who in your opinion has the ability to implelement any of the game plans you have in mind...I'm anxiously awaiting your summation but not expecting to see more than a one line generalised response...


Hey Juddy and the cruisers... i agree with you yeah??

We have an ordinary list ... but a super coach...!!!

We need to tank.. so the coach can get some cattle...

Happy???

Cos this is a ripping competition...

Teams like Essendon*... sydney... north... freo... west coast... collingwood.. adelaide.. port.. melbourne.. richmond...etc all gun sides...!!!

how are we supposed to compete with such gun sides???

were doing pretty good.. compared to the crap footballers we have on our list... we would be doing even worse if we wernt such a well drilled footy side.. and the players wernt so sure of their roles etc...

again,... youre right!!!

our list is terrible... our coaches and development is A1 .. im with you brother!!! :thumbsup:


What we need is more tanking yeah???

some more pick 1s.. to help Ratts and his superior coaching..

Maybe we can add a Pavlich.. Goddard and Deledio to the mix of another few number 1 picks to go hand in hand with the Fevs Waites and the assortment of pick 1s and AA captain in Judd...

I know???

Ratts doesnt have the best midfielder.... we should see if we can swap Judd for Ablett... so we can have abit more in the midfield for Ratts gameplan...to compete against the superstar sides like Freos and Dons..

But you know what that means right???

You would have to change to your super name from Juddy and the Kreuzers to Ablett and the Kreuzers... but we will have to find ourseves more Kreuzers too...
At the moment Ratts has the disadvantage of only having one Kreuzer..

Hes fighting this coaching battle with one hand behind his back...

Im with you son!!!!

Cos you know.... :clap:

Anyway.. when i read your stuff i learn alot.. my mind is provoked into thinking or and more about the game..

We need more superstars.. or we cant be a good side...

More and more and more superstars... and then even more...

.... dont worry about the salary cap... Pratt would have left us something in his will...

im with your mind ... we are one...
Our ist isnt upto the freos and the dons.. :thumbsup:


So you were being sarcastic...apologises dude....I thought so.

You know you sound so angry with the way we are going you'd think you'd never tasted success.

I mean unless you're still in high school, you have been spoiled till recently so just hang in there dude...don't worry we'll get there....your message will eventually sink in...just don't hold your breath.



No, agreeing with your very in depth views .
We have an average list.
We have a super coach!
'Juddy and the Kreuzers' are the men that helped me understand footy...

I thought we had an above average list... led by the best if not in the top 3 player in the comp.A premiership winning captain... but then that wasnt really him it was Cuz...
I thought we had 3 number 1 picks and a string of very good young kids...
Also some very handy middle aged and older players.


The role of the coach is to have us playing as close to their best as possible.. and Ratts with his sophisticated gameplan is doing this.....

.... that is why we had the lock out practice sessions...cos Ratts had us playing something extremely top secret... something that was going to blow the footy world apart with its cunning. daring and planning...

i see....

... but we dont have "a good list" as you put it.... and so that ratts lock out practice sessions to have full effect we must get more and more superstar players....

... you see... ratts super duper gameplan that was trialled under closed sessions can not work unless we have the AA team .. yes???

I knew i read your extremely insightful posts for a reason Juddy and the Kreuzers.. and you have convinced me!!!

ok???


That's it let out that anger dude...


no anger Juddy and the Kreuzers...
remember.... our list isnt up to the standard of freo and Essendon*...

our coach is great!!! :thumbsup:

Im with you....

... sack the 30 players and tank....

... we need more quality............ to play the super duper lock out practice session gameplan...

... it is no gameplan for mere mortals like armfield...

.... more quality with a capital Q
...... less average with a small 'a'

I used to think our list was good.. up and coming and with development and intelligent coaching..a chance to make some real inroads .... but now i see we need more tanking....

thanks brother... :thumbsup:

i feel better... i now understand i need more patience... maybe another 3 or 4 years???... just by then we have to do something to replace fev and juddy....for a real tilt.... then we should really if were serious tank even more... to get replacements for them too....

... cos the ratts gameplan can only really truly be played if we have 22 superstars...!...!!!

i understand... :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Expectations
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 10:47 pm 
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Go blues no matter what happens. :beer:


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 Post subject: Re: Expectations
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:09 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
Synbad wrote:
anfield wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I thought we would lose to Freo Essendon* and Swans for sure...

I thought we would be a third of the way into the new season and we still have the same problems as last year... for sure...

I thought this season was going to be a tough season for sure.. cos alot of great clubs would be putting their hand up ... for sure....

Were seriously underperforming.... no matter how you wanna look at things...

Its not just about the points.. but its about how the team is gelling...

We have probems creating space... we have problems moving the ball fluid.. and we dont have a structure into our forward line...

Defensively we have blokes who dont have a clue how to defend over their heads...blokes that touch peoples backs when they shouldnt... blokes that are unaccountable... blokes that dont run into the right positions... blokes that are still not passing off to others in the right positions cos others arent in the right positions... blokes that wont be organised to be on the goal side of a ball up or kick into our fifty... blokes that just fall into someones back when tackling...etc etc etc
Sure we might make the eight.. but we wont make the eight cos we know what were doing.. its cos its a weak comp....


Is correct. We still lack quality in the forward line and down back. I'll be happy with 7 or 8. I dont think we are any better than that at the moment. Warnock's injury has been very costly. Some baffling selections in the last 2 weeks, why was Bentley picked? Why was Sentanta dropped? The team selection this week is going to be very, very interesting too.


Sure we should be a better team with Warnock injury free and playing good consistent footy.. but i dont think the problem is in the playing personel...its with whats been done with them....


You actually do believe we have a very good list don't you?...All this time I thought you were being sarcastic....dude you cannot be serious can you? Do you believe in the existence of talent? Or do you believe we are all born with the ability to be talented in all things?

Take a serious look at our list and then go out on a limb and imagine yourself coaching them (not some two bit drone who knows nothing about footy) and tell me who in your opinion has the ability to implelement any of the game plans you have in mind...I'm anxiously awaiting your summation but not expecting to see more than a one line generalised response...


Hey Juddy and the cruisers... i agree with you yeah??

We have an ordinary list ... but a super coach...!!!

We need to tank.. so the coach can get some cattle...

Happy???

Cos this is a ripping competition...

Teams like Essendon*... sydney... north... freo... west coast... collingwood.. adelaide.. port.. melbourne.. richmond...etc all gun sides...!!!

how are we supposed to compete with such gun sides???

were doing pretty good.. compared to the crap footballers we have on our list... we would be doing even worse if we wernt such a well drilled footy side.. and the players wernt so sure of their roles etc...

again,... youre right!!!

our list is terrible... our coaches and development is A1 .. im with you brother!!! :thumbsup:


What we need is more tanking yeah???

some more pick 1s.. to help Ratts and his superior coaching..

Maybe we can add a Pavlich.. Goddard and Deledio to the mix of another few number 1 picks to go hand in hand with the Fevs Waites and the assortment of pick 1s and AA captain in Judd...

I know???

Ratts doesnt have the best midfielder.... we should see if we can swap Judd for Ablett... so we can have abit more in the midfield for Ratts gameplan...to compete against the superstar sides like Freos and Dons..

But you know what that means right???

You would have to change to your super name from Juddy and the Kreuzers to Ablett and the Kreuzers... but we will have to find ourseves more Kreuzers too...
At the moment Ratts has the disadvantage of only having one Kreuzer..

Hes fighting this coaching battle with one hand behind his back...

Im with you son!!!!

Cos you know.... :clap:

Anyway.. when i read your stuff i learn alot.. my mind is provoked into thinking or and more about the game..

We need more superstars.. or we cant be a good side...

More and more and more superstars... and then even more...

.... dont worry about the salary cap... Pratt would have left us something in his will...

im with your mind ... we are one...
Our ist isnt upto the freos and the dons.. :thumbsup:


So you were being sarcastic...apologises dude....I thought so.

You know you sound so angry with the way we are going you'd think you'd never tasted success.

I mean unless you're still in high school, you have been spoiled till recently so just hang in there dude...don't worry we'll get there....your message will eventually sink in...just don't hold your breath.



No, agreeing with your very in depth views .
We have an average list.
We have a super coach!
'Juddy and the Kreuzers' are the men that helped me understand footy...

I thought we had an above average list... led by the best if not in the top 3 player in the comp.A premiership winning captain... but then that wasnt really him it was Cuz...
I thought we had 3 number 1 picks and a string of very good young kids...
Also some very handy middle aged and older players.


The role of the coach is to have us playing as close to their best as possible.. and Ratts with his sophisticated gameplan is doing this.....

.... that is why we had the lock out practice sessions...cos Ratts had us playing something extremely top secret... something that was going to blow the footy world apart with its cunning. daring and planning...

i see....

... but we dont have "a good list" as you put it.... and so that ratts lock out practice sessions to have full effect we must get more and more superstar players....

... you see... ratts super duper gameplan that was trialled under closed sessions can not work unless we have the AA team .. yes???

I knew i read your extremely insightful posts for a reason Juddy and the Kreuzers.. and you have convinced me!!!

ok???


That's it let out that anger dude...


no anger Juddy and the Kreuzers...
remember.... our list isnt up to the standard of freo and Essendon*...

our coach is great!!! :thumbsup:

Im with you....

... sack the 30 players and tank....

... we need more quality............ to play the super duper lock out practice session gameplan...

... it is no gameplan for mere mortals like armfield...

.... more quality with a capital Q
...... less average with a small 'a'

I used to think our list was good.. up and coming and with development and intelligent coaching..a chance to make some real inroads .... but now i see we need more tanking....

thanks brother... :thumbsup:

i feel better... i now understand i need more patience... maybe another 3 or 4 years???... just by then we have to do something to replace fev and juddy....for a real tilt.... then we should really if were serious tank even more... to get replacements for them too....

... cos the ratts gameplan can only really truly be played if we have 22 superstars...!...!!!

i understand... :thumbsup:


Glad to hear it dude...thats it lighten up a little.

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 Post subject: Re: Expectations
PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:15 pm 
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You have helped me...

Thank you Juddy...... oh!!!... and the Kreuzers...

Ok so were agreed...

Ratts master coach with his closed sessions.. that should translate to fantastic performances but dont.. cos the side is "too average".. except for Juddy and the Kreuzers... aka number 1 picks...


But Sydneys 22 1995 flag team that coached themselves to a flag is an excellent idea also....(Parkin said Williams is a gun coach)


I like both... im divided between you two.... i should sleep on it..


Decisions decisons...!!!

Both great though...!!!

Sheer genius!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Expectations
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:43 am 
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Synbad wrote:
You have helped me...

Thank you Juddy...... oh!!!... and the Kreuzers...

Ok so were agreed...

Ratts master coach with his closed sessions.. that should translate to fantastic performances but dont.. cos the side is "too average".. except for Juddy and the Kreuzers... aka number 1 picks...


But Sydneys 22 1995 flag team that coached themselves to a flag is an excellent idea also....(Parkin said Williams is a gun coach)


I like both... im divided between you two.... i should sleep on it..


Decisions decisons...!!!

Both great though...!!!

Sheer genius!!!!


Sleep on it dude...and take ur time....be careful you dont fall off the fence.

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 Post subject: Re: Expectations
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:42 pm 
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Expectations - I expected this thread to become yet another that has been hijacked by circular arguments.

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