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Imagine what we would be like with a Cox or a Hale or a Campbell?


Unstoppable!! How do you spose we get one of these guys?


Not sure at this stage Duke but if you asked me the same question last year about a guy called Judd, I would of had the mods throw you in the looney bin.

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Interesting.

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Interesting.

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Where'd you get that from? Saddington's first four kicks last weekend were clangers.


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Interesting. Note also we are coming dead last in hit outs.


Hit Outs for: 455
Hit Outs against: 780
Difference: -325

This is a shocking stat. Needs to improve dramatically next season.
Of those 455, it would be interesting how many were to advantage.


According to those in Talking Recruitment, we should be gunning for a midfielder in Kerr or a forward in Brown.

Never mind a ruckman being more of a pressing need for the club. :roll:


Ehemmmm, that'd be me :) . Just let me qualify that by saying that we also need a ruckman, but you might notice that they don't come by easily.

We've almost got into the finals with those horrific stats, imagine how we'll go with a Johnno B or Kerr?

Our rucks will progress further and bridge the gap by probably 20-40% in the off season. We can speed it up by getting a top line young ruckman, but that'll come at a massive cost, if at all - and in 2 years we'll have a surplus of ruckman and a shortage of Key forwards.

I say we put a priority on Kerr followed by Brown, then ruckman if all else fails.

Be assured that one of these targets will be met.

Playing Hampson should be our priority this year.


No offense, but it is that same attitude towards ruckmen that was adopted by the recruitment department over the last 10 years which got us in to trouble.

In terms of positions on the ground, we have lost games this year we could have won but for our deficiency in the ruck (with the short Cloke) and becuase we lacked the height in the last line in defense to cover resting ruckmen or very tall forwards/ gorillas (when Setanta was injured).

If we were to recruit a ruckman this year, how do you come to the conclusion that we will have too many ruckmen in a couple of years; curious :?: How many do you think we should have on the list? Name the ones you consider will be on the list in 2 years time.

Realistically, every team has gaps, and Geelong albeit almost a perfect team (ala Carlton circa 95) even that same Geelong squad had weknesses till they matured. I don't think we have too many gaps, and young players will mature and improve.

I think we need a CHB to release Waite up forward (or a CHF to leave Waite at CHB), a ruckman to ensure we have a fall back in case of poor form or injury to our #1 or #2 ruckman, let alone being able to release Kreuzer to forwardline for longer periods, and the BP, when Setanta is injured or drops in form to mind resting ruckmen.

If we want Kreuzer to play forward, then we'd have to have rotating ruckmen like Hampson and a taller one than Cloke. We'd still need a developing ruckman or 4th fit ruckman in reserves, to retain this sort of structure.

As for all positions on the field, there's no doubt that depth is a good thing to add to our midfield, in fact all positions.

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Where'd you get that from? Saddington's first four kicks last weekend were clangers.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/Season2008/ ... fault.aspx

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Lurker Blue wrote:
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Where'd you get that from? Saddington's first four kicks last weekend were clangers.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/Season2008/ ... fault.aspx


I'm pretty sure that kicking a behind is included as a clanger.

Yep, just checked the hawks site and Franklin has 94 clangers this year.

Bit harsh to be given a clanger if you kick a behind from 50M out on the boundary.

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An interesting stat I found whilst reading this thread is that in 2007 we didn't have a single thread on interesting stats so that constitutes a huge increase in percentage terms. In terms of arithmetic progressions it is only one but in geometric terms it is infinity. That is the equal highest percentage increase of any thread in the history of TC. :shock:

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Blue Sombrero wrote:
An interesting stat I found whilst reading this thread is that in 2007 we didn't have a single thread on interesting stats so that constitutes a huge increase in percentage terms. In terms of arithmetic progressions it is only one but in geometric terms it is infinity. That is the equal highest percentage increase of any thread in the history of TC. :shock:


Oh my GOD!.....He's absolutly right! :shock:

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Jarusa wrote:
Lurker Blue wrote:
Andain wrote:
Where'd you get that from? Saddington's first four kicks last weekend were clangers.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/Season2008/ ... fault.aspx


I'm pretty sure that kicking a behind is included as a clanger.

Yep, just checked the hawks site and Franklin has 94 clangers this year.

Bit harsh to be given a clanger if you kick a behind from 50M out on the boundary.


Does that same rule apply to all clanger stats regardless of the situation (as in, are the clarifications the same whether the stats are obtained from Carlton FC, or the AFL and so on?)


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Another interesting stat.

In our final quater comebacks against:

PA - we kicked 7 goals to PA 2 points, one was rushed.

Bulldogs - We kicked 6 goals to Dogs 2 points, one was rushed.

Lions - 6 goals to 1 point.

That's 19 goals to 5 behinds in 3 quaters of footy. That's flowering impressive.


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bax wrote:
Another interesting stat.

In our final quater comebacks against:

PA - we kicked 7 goals to PA 2 points, one was rushed.

Bulldogs - We kicked 6 goals to Dogs 2 points, one was rushed.

Lions - 6 goals to 1 point.

That's 19 goals to 5 behinds in 3 quaters of footy. That's flowering impressive.



3 quarters out of 84.........yes ......very impressive :?

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MoriBlue wrote:
bax wrote:
Another interesting stat.

In our final quater comebacks against:

PA - we kicked 7 goals to PA 2 points, one was rushed.

Bulldogs - We kicked 6 goals to Dogs 2 points, one was rushed.

Lions - 6 goals to 1 point.

That's 19 goals to 5 behinds in 3 quaters of footy. That's flowering impressive.



3 quarters out of 84.........yes ......very impressive :?


It depends what you're analysing mate. If I was looking at our 2nd or 3rd quaters it wont be very impressive would it? But that was not the point, thank you very much :roll:


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