Thanks captain obvious.

I've never seen an employed AFL senior coach switch teams mid season.

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that was my flower point

everyone crying foul like he will be sacked now and woosha will come parading in next week

reality doesn't live here

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

People need to start judging Ratts by his results-
I queried his appointment from the start because I was extremely worried about the process we put in.
Sadly at the time there were didnt seem as though there was anyone we wanted to bank on to be coach
I just dont back Ratts in to outcoach a Neil Craig, or a Terry Wallace, or an Alistair Clarkson. These are the questions we need to ask of our senior coach, and its alright for Ratts to be lovey dovey with our young kids etc, but if were going to take the next step I think we erred in appointing Ratts.

And I say that with a very heavy heart because Ive met him before and he is the nicest bloke anyone would ever meet. I can put those kind of things aside though and judge him on results- lets hope everyone else can as well.

VOSS!!!!!!

'BOokmark this...'

BO... its clearly Barrack Obama in disguise.

Thing is, with the admin we have now I'm sure he will be judged accordingly.

I'm sure that the CFC admin will have no hesitation in appointing a new coach if they can get one that they think has a much higher chance of success.

But that will not happen till the end of the year. All the best coaches are actually coaching these days. I get the feeling the CFC is not exactly in the mood to develop a new coach that might bring success in five+ years learning on the job.

If that is the case so be it, I can understand the thinking, I think we want a crack at a premiership before Judd and Fev get too old.

Ratts is a terrific guy and I hope he does succeed, but if Pratt and Swann see fit to try something at the end of the year they think will fastrack the club by a couple of years, fine with me. They have not made any glaringly bad decisions yet or shown any sign of arrogance or hubris. Trust their judgement at the moment.

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Pagan has two premierships. They should go for him. Or Voss. He is cool.

And he knows how to use that NAB Analyser thingy. He's probably got an I-Pod as well.

iPod

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Oooh! What about Sheedy? He's got four! He must be awesome! AND he's not working!

Surely......

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The real questions is who's fault we don't do the basics, which BTW is kicking and handballing to a target.

Ratts should not be having to spend his first year a coach teaching the skills that should have been a given.
But that's what you get when coaches are rated by how many premierships they have won.....

Geez the campaign against Ratts has started already. Give the guy a break. Its like sacking someone by morno's on thier first day cause they didn't land a big sale.

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Your a proven sniper Rhys, so no response needed for your posts.

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total bullshvt if u ask me.

I'm not sure what Ratts has done that is so wrong this year?

1. We are yet to be totally flogged (worst result 56 points) and shown fight in every game - consistency of effort is still a concern, but this can be attributed to age of the players and potentially in their ability to implement the gameplan. The graph is improving for the first time in a long time.

2. Constant blooding of new players - Kruezer, Browne, Armfield, Edwards, Ellard, Pfeiffer - this would not have happened in previous years and shows that Ratts IS prepared to build a team for the LONG TERM, rather than implement a short term fix for cheap wins.

3. Team starting to win games it should: Melbourne, Freo, WC. Even pinched one against Collingwood.

4. Changes in gameplan: more possession footy, implementation of "tempo" style etc. It's not perfect, but that's part of a new system.

5. Team has coped (to an extent) despite numerous injuries (Walker, Hartlett, Cloke, Bannister, Hampson, Hadley, Jamison, Houlihan etc - not including Judd and others who may be carrying). This has likely hurt the implementation of the new strategies for the team.

6. Development of players - sure I'd like it to be quicker as well, but Jamison has been fantastic. Browne has shown wonderful maturity, Bower has become an AFL standard defender. There is a lot to like.

I, for one, have been happy with Ratts. I never expected that Carlton would go to premiership contenders in one year, even with the inclusion of Judd. We were a LOOOONG way back. This year we have undeniably moved forward.

There have been some negatives (less wins than we'd like, Rich/Ess, Setanta stagnating, Fev-centric etc), but the glass shouldn't always be half empty.

The Carlton of old is dead people. We (should) no longer sack coaches for simply failing to make the finals....

I feel for Ratts if this where true.
Having said that I think the return games against Richmond & Essendon* are crucial for Ratts.

Ok so Ratts is going to be a good coach cos he was an assistant coach to Melb for a year before finding himself unemplyed within the AFL for a couple of years... and then doing 12 weeks odd under Denis and then catapulted to head coach with a 2 year contract and not alot of money???

Love your logic... keep it up...

The truth is he was appointed as a swim or sink coach ....

and whether you or i like it.. his job will rest in his performances to establish a gameplan and shape a footy side that understands the game... not beating a MElbourne who are worse than us...

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Worsfold has a very successful game plan that revolves entirely around Judd. Therefore it can only work at Carlton. Makes sense to me

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