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I thought it was more a push to the face then a striking action


Thank you kk - that's exactly how I saw it too.

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With the current tribunal system he should just take the one week and be done with it. Hardly anyone gets found not guilty these days.


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My old man can confirm that Vinny was a cheap shot expert...don't know about just going after the smaller types though..


Bullshit !!! Vinny handed out plenty and copped plenty. The ledger was squared.



Waite was pretty tough and used to bust packs open as I recall - however there is a school of thought that when he was really needed to stand up in that 1973 Grand Final - (after Balme KO'd Southby and Fowler ironed out Big Nick) that Vin Waite went missing - unfortunately I dont have a very good memory when it comes to our losing Grand Finals :oops: - Warby maybe be able to clear this up.


It wasn't just Nick and Southby that got hammered, Vin Waite and Phil Pinnell also copped ''bell ringers'' that would have stopped anybody in their tracks.
This all went on under the nose of the umpire, Ian Robinson, who chose for reasons known only to him, to do SFA about it.
Sheedy was even quoted recently as saying what he did to Pinnell was unacceptable, and the incident was one that he regretted. A big admission coming from him.
It was open season on Carlton players that day, and Robinson's inaction played no small part in the result. But to lay the blame on Vin Waite is neither right nor fair.



Thanks for clearing that up Murray - as I said - I was only passing this on as a school of thought - this is one of the rare GF's that I did not ever go to and one that I certainly dont want to look back at the reply of.

Richmond certainly went in and made sure they took out anyone who could fly the flag - and snot rags like Balme and Sheedy were and are turds.

Umpire Robinson always had it in for Carlton - it took David Parkin to come to Carlton to invite Ian Robinson to training one night to have a beer with the players and clear the air as to why - but even then the outer used cringe everytime Robinson's name went up on the scoreboard as the umpire of the day. :evil: :roll:

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murraycray wrote:
AGRO wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
My old man can confirm that Vinny was a cheap shot expert...don't know about just going after the smaller types though..


Bullshit !!! Vinny handed out plenty and copped plenty. The ledger was squared.



Waite was pretty tough and used to bust packs open as I recall - however there is a school of thought that when he was really needed to stand up in that 1973 Grand Final - (after Balme KO'd Southby and Fowler ironed out Big Nick) that Vin Waite went missing - unfortunately I dont have a very good memory when it comes to our losing Grand Finals :oops: - Warby maybe be able to clear this up.


It wasn't just Nick and Southby that got hammered, Vin Waite and Phil Pinnell also copped ''bell ringers'' that would have stopped anybody in their tracks.
This all went on under the nose of the umpire, Ian Robinson, who chose for reasons known only to him, to do SFA about it.
Sheedy was even quoted recently as saying what he did to Pinnell was unacceptable, and the incident was one that he regretted. A big admission coming from him.
It was open season on Carlton players that day, and Robinson's inaction played no small part in the result. But to lay the blame on Vin Waite is neither right nor fair.


Not to mention Walls and McKay who copped some beauties too.

People need to get that Collingwood isn't a real enemy. Who cares about Protestant vs Catholic BS from 100 years ago. They've been harmless since about the 1920s - pitiable and pitiful even........

The real enemy is Richmond. I hate them with a passion. And the biggest mongrels from Mongrelville were Balme and Sheedy (and Ricky McLean - a turncoat). Also one who gets under the radar is Fowler (an anagram of Flower). Between them they destroyed Carlton for 6 years. Only when Jezza came and taught us to stand up for ourselves did we recover.

FLOWER RICHMOND!!!!!


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The real enemy is Richmond. I hate them with a passion. And the biggest mongrels from Mongrelville were Balme and Sheedy (and Ricky McLean - a turncoat). Also one who gets under the radar is Fowler (an anagram of Flower). Between them they destroyed Carlton for 6 years. Only when Jezza came and taught us to stand up for ourselves did we recover.

FLOWER RICHMOND!!!!!



Moshe your a hater with a long memory. :wink:









I like that. :P

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moshe25 wrote:
murraycray wrote:
AGRO wrote:
murraycray wrote:
Juddy&theKruezers wrote:
My old man can confirm that Vinny was a cheap shot expert...don't know about just going after the smaller types though..


Bullshit !!! Vinny handed out plenty and copped plenty. The ledger was squared.



Waite was pretty tough and used to bust packs open as I recall - however there is a school of thought that when he was really needed to stand up in that 1973 Grand Final - (after Balme KO'd Southby and Fowler ironed out Big Nick) that Vin Waite went missing - unfortunately I dont have a very good memory when it comes to our losing Grand Finals :oops: - Warby maybe be able to clear this up.


It wasn't just Nick and Southby that got hammered, Vin Waite and Phil Pinnell also copped ''bell ringers'' that would have stopped anybody in their tracks.
This all went on under the nose of the umpire, Ian Robinson, who chose for reasons known only to him, to do SFA about it.
Sheedy was even quoted recently as saying what he did to Pinnell was unacceptable, and the incident was one that he regretted. A big admission coming from him.
It was open season on Carlton players that day, and Robinson's inaction played no small part in the result. But to lay the blame on Vin Waite is neither right nor fair.


Not to mention Walls and McKay who copped some beauties too.

People need to get that Collingwood isn't a real enemy. Who cares about Protestant vs Catholic BS from 100 years ago. They've been harmless since about the 1920s - pitiable and pitiful even........

The real enemy is Richmond. I hate them with a passion. And the biggest mongrels from Mongrelville were Balme and Sheedy (and Ricky McLean - a turncoat). Also one who gets under the radar is Fowler (an anagram of Flower). Between them they destroyed Carlton for 6 years. Only when Jezza came and taught us to stand up for ourselves did we recover.

FLOWER RICHMOND!!!!!



# 1 loathing was the '73 GF and the fact that we didn't belt the suitcase out of Balme, Sheedy and Fowler still pisses me off to this day!

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Back to the topic, Waite is contesting his charge tonight...... Source Sportal.....


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With the current tribunal system he should just take the one week and be done with it. Hardly anyone gets found not guilty these days.


As opposed to last year when just about every appeal was successful!! Go figure!!

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Fevola wrote:
Setanta (Hopefully fit) - Mooney
Bower - Hawkins
Ando - Johnson
Carazzo - Chapman
Ando - Stokes


Crikey fev, I've been calling for Ando's inclusion for a long time but geez.. poor Joey's gonna have his work cut out for him against Johnson AND stokes. Are you sure he's up to it?


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Thats the beauty of this year, we have options and there are no expectations.

We wont know until we try and give these guuys some jobs eg Ando.

Ando did a good job on Eagleton from the bulldogs if I recall correctly.


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Just realised my error. OOPS. I meant Army for one of them.


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Just realised my error. OOPS. I meant Army for one of them.


:lol: I know. But seriously I would love to see Ando in. I think we're missing a few players like Joey in the side. And I also think he offers huge potential for improvement. One of those players that could go on to way beyond expectations.

Haven't seen Army play yet, maybe once in the PS, but I've heard good things


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Correct Murray a bit rough on Vin -when Big Nick went down that was the end of the game - couldnt give quarter time speech because he was so concussed
Southby was never the same after Balme hit him - a disgraceful act -similar in brutality as the hit of Matthews on Bruns
Vin was tough enough gave them and wore them -didnt see him shirk against the big guys
As for Jarrad last week -stupid -would have ben handy this week


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Back to the topic, Waite is contesting his charge tonight...... Source Sportal.....


Is there any other cases being heard part from Waite and Mitchell?

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DownUnderChick wrote:
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Back to the topic, Waite is contesting his charge tonight...... Source Sportal.....


Is there any other cases being heard part from Waite and Mitchell?


Mitchell isn't contesting the charge against him and has accepted his penalty


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SEN: Waite lost his appeal and he is out for a week


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jake_h03 wrote:
Fevola wrote:
Setanta (Hopefully fit) - Mooney
Bower - Hawkins
Ando - Johnson
Carazzo - Chapman
Ando - Stokes


Crikey fev, I've been calling for Ando's inclusion for a long time but geez.. poor Joey's gonna have his work cut out for him against Johnson AND stokes. Are you sure he's up to it?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

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don't have huge expections about this weeks match but still... :roll:

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As Maxwell Smart would say:

The old take out your best defenders to make the opposition over confident, before we get up for a win with a bunch of unknown kids trick.

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kingkerna wrote:
I thought it was more a push to the face then a striking action


Thank you kk - that's exactly how I saw it too.


It can be looked at in any way each of us wants, at the end of the day once he did it he took it out of his hands and placed it in the match review committees.

We don't want that, especially for something so simple as that.

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