23 July: Denis Pagan sacked / Ratten named caretaker (pg9)

kingkerna · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:11 pm

No Agro, the main prize is CFC getting a decent coach that can get the best out of whoever we draft. If we had have kept Pagan nothing would have changed

Barack Obama · **Joined:** Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:47 am **Posts:** 1162

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 22,00.html

Blues sack Pagan after drubbing Font Size: Decrease Increase Print Page: Print Chip Le Grand | July 23, 2007
Carlton have sacked embattled coach Denis Pagan and replaced him with former club champion Brett Ratten.

Pagan's future

bluesinsider · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:12 pm

players in meeting now

spider · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:14 pm

Now sack mitchell as well

GWS · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:15 pm

Thanks for your 5 years Denis...

...and thanks for your day out Jonathan Brown :wink:

camel · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:16 pm

Dale wrote:

Feel a bit for Dennis but this is best for the club.

Agreed. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. He probably did give his best, but moving him on was definitely the correct decision.

For the few highlights, thank you. For the lowlights, it's going to take a flowering long time to forget them, there's just sooooo many!

bjaffe · **Joined:** Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:18 pm **Posts:** 56

Assuming Rats is caretaker, if he doesnt get the senior job at the end of the season, is there any chance he would remain as an assistant or would the new guy bring in all new ppl?

townsy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:38 am **Posts:** 504

Thankyou for your effort Denis. Thankyou for the two pre-season premierships. Thankyou for Marc Murphy, Bryce Gibbs and the O'hAilpins.

Best wishes for the future,
townsy.

danii · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:21 pm

I want Craig Bradley to be cartaker coach for the rest of the year.
Picks 1 and 3 this year due to honourable losses.
No more beltings!!!!!!!!.........I hope.

Rocco Iguana · **Joined:** Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:37 pm **Posts:** 1362

bluesinsider wrote:

players in meeting now

will some of them announce their 'retirement' as well ?

bluehammer · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:29 pm

MonstaBlue · **Joined:** Mon May 30, 2005 1:35 pm **Posts:** 344

As I have said this morning... Braddles is succesful in his private life, whilst Ratts is a Career coach.. Rats wont be coach as they will play kids the rest of the year and going 0-6 and leading us to the P.P wouldn't help his chances of getting a senior job......... Come on down Braddles.....

camel · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:42 pm

bluehammer wrote:

It's all part of his development.

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

bluehammer wrote:

malbi · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:51 pm

History will judge this piece of Carlton's history none too kindly. Carlton cheated in the salary cap and got penalised. Elliott appointed Pagan in a last gasp clutch at power. You could argue that the Pagan appointment was the most damaging.

I was one not in favour of Pagan being appointed in the first place. Pagan always seemed like yesterday's man. He never got on well with the players. It was obvious to see. The results are on the board. More than 25% of our loses are greater than 10 goals and nearly every club has kicked record scores against us. Finally Pagan has to accept some responsibility.

For our future's sake I hope that we don't win another game this year. The AFL have given us this incentive to lose and we must take advantage of it. We need the top picks. Honourable loses will be good enough for me. Then we can look upward next year.

Braddles21 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:54 pm

Ratts or Braddles - either will do a good job in the role for the rest of the year. Good luck to them.

Bad luck Denis. I remember an interview when he was first hired, talking up the future of the club. It was awesome and fired me up big time. Unfortunately, none of that has happened and this decision had to happen. It's pretty clear that he had lost the players and that the players weren't playing for or responding to whatever he had to say.

Now it's time to hit the trade week HARD. Put everyone on the list up (apart from the obvious - Murph, Gibbs, etc) and see what we can get. Get more early to middle draft picks or mid age players to add some leadership.

This is one of the most important off seasons in the club's history.

koutahootarootafides · **Joined:** Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:58 am **Posts:** 315

ryan2000 wrote:

THANK YOU JESUS!

*SIGH*

What a relief!

Who wants a beer?

me - what a relief - my membership card survives being cut up and mailed to the club.

daggs001 · **Joined:** Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:20 pm **Posts:** 1816

anyone have a working link to the press conference?

camel · **Posted:** Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:06 pm

Can someone please take notes if they hear any of the press conference on the radio. I can't seem to get the stream of SEN working at the moment.

hannahadhair · **Joined:** Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:47 pm **Posts:** 67

daggs001 wrote:

anyone have a working link to the press conference?

ABC radio are stating they will cross over when it begins

23 July: Denis Pagan sacked / Ratten named caretaker (pg9)

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