Pros:
Performances of Simmo, Waite, Fisher.
Setanta's goal in the first - bamboozled Bolton.
The 1st qtr & parts of the 3rd qtr.

Cons:
Playing a clearly injured Gibbs - he's 18 FFS, let him recover
Hartlett - this kid cannot take a trick with injuries, particularly hammies
Walker - he's injured and shouldn't be playing - that shoulder is not right and his intensity is no where near where it has been. at the club

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Pros:

The first quarter effort all over the field.
The effort through the match by most of the kids.
the umpiring wasn't totally shithouse, only cost one or 2 goals, and gave us one or 2
Good support for Carlton in Sydney. There was a LOT of Navy Blue there today. Take note, Carlton. Don't abandon us!

Cons:

The effort dropped off, and it became a training drill
"Zone" defence. Why change what was working?
Crumbing. We were given a definitive lesson in crumbing play by a team who is expert at it.

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Neither Kennedy or Hartlett have shown much this year except for the odd glimpse. However, we just need to give them time. They will bulk up over the next couple of years and learn some body positioning skills. Then watch out! I have faith.

"There has been a lot of talk in the media recently, particularly in the Age and the Herald Sun about Denis saying he is the best man for the job of coach of the Carlton Footy Club. Having worked with him for 4 years, what are Denis' strengths and weaknesses?"

Libba - I'm not in the position to say too much considering that I have to support the head coach etc etc [understandable]....his strengths are motivation of the players, he gets everyone motivated in the rooms before the match, he sits down with the players one-on-one and does a good job of that. He has weaknesses but I don't think I can too much more.

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maybe you should have nominated those after him???

See the trouble with the mr potato heads of this world is they look at a bloke who went at pick # 367 and point to them as a drafting success... never asking why that same bloke wasnt picked earlier...

Its the same people who play tatts ever week thinking theyre going to get rich...


Maybe Josh Kennedy needs more time as a tall...
Maybe he needs a new coach.....

But you cant go pointing the bone at him as to why we shouldnt finish lower ... cos that would be saying if we got pick 4 alone we would have just Josh (who i think will make it) and not Murph too.

Your Mr potato head Logic just doesnt gel... cos we give ourselves more chances with the percentages... Its basic mathematics...

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and he will get better if his flower teammates honour his leads and they leave him at CHF>

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Just shows what a shambles the club is at the moment.
Sure not enough food at the pre-game function but the venue and menu was chosen by jeremy at the CFC against the advise of adele spencer and last years experience at the Royal Randwick where the food was great and plentiful.
Also the marketing person (zoe i think) sent up by the club showed all her marketing expertise by insisting that there should only be one raffle ticket seller at a function of over 100 people.
And arrangements for the banner messed up by the CFC (jeremy again).

What's that old line about nort being able to run a raffle in a brothel, let alone a footy club!!!

Frighteningly incompetent.

And libber also failed to answer my query about player development and promotion and in particular how he thought grigg would get used to the pace of AFL footy (which he had a crack at him about) by being picked, played for a quarter and then sent back to the bullants. Remember libber is the backline coach - 'nuff said

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Kennedy will take time but I am confident he will make it. He has long legs and a short body ... this impedes his core stability ... it isn't hard to move him from his line when he is attempting to mark.

Also not just him but other young players are suffering from the number of times we lose plus the losing margins. This is very demoralising and it damages their confidence. I thought Bower started well, was proactive but when he had that rush of blood and played on it damaged his confidence. I watch other teams and see their 26 plus year olds really lead their teams charge. We lack those types ... that isn't Pagan's fault but rather those responsible for list management from 1995 to 2002.

My question marks with Pagan are around.

1. His ability to form positive relationships with players.
2. His stand off with Mitchell. Pagan has to mend it not Mitchell. If he refuses to liaise with one of his deputies then he should be shown the door. He is making it an unworkable relationship, yet HE is responsible for making it a workable relationship.
3. His ability to steer us with the right rebuilding model. What I mean by this is during 2004 he with his hand on his heart said we are rebuilding ... that being the case the two obvious player draft choices at pick 9 should have been a ruckman or a bigger bodied midfielder ... the type of player we took with pick 9 (Jordan Russell) was not a priority. If Pagan wanted that type of player then it demonstrates that he doesn't have any method to the rebuilding model.

Also with Sticks ... is he the right person to lead our football matters on the board ? Great bloke I hear you say ... so were Bobby and Kevin Rose at Collingwood ... great club men ... but were they the right types to lead our club.

What he said.

hook line and sinker Mr Synbad

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Pros:
1. I didn't have to remove my pants and swing 'em about a bit in the middle of the office like I promised I would in the event of a win.

2. We kicked 15 goals against a side known for shutting their opposition down.

Cons:
1. I didn't have to remove my pants and swing 'em about a bit in the middle of the office like I promised I would in the event of a win.

2. Everyone in the office barracked hard for Sydney to ensure my pants remained on.

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!@#$ off Essendon**** Just !@#$ right off. SCUM.

Pro's:
1. Only 7 more weeks of this rubbish
2. Bower did 1 or 2 things that made him look like a real footballer

Cons
1. 7 more weeks of this rubbish
2. No-one of any significance/ impact is playing for their AFL futures over the next 7 weeks. The team that ran out today are not necessarily the guys that are under the pump, and even if a Wiggins or a Bannister played the game of their lives it would not have changed the result substantially. The scary thing is that 18 of the 22 that were out there today are relatively safe and will be around next year.
3. Eddie Betts

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That one is really sad. We all love him, but his influence on games has been nill this year. Not looking good for his future.

Rubbish!!!

Betts is another one thats been swallowed up by 'Pagans Bermuda Triangle'...
Massive talent... would be a gun at a club like Port...
If you start looking at blokes like Betts to move on your moving on your resurgence

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I think Josh Kennedy will make it, he just needs time to develop. If comparisons are to be made they should be to players with similar physical attributes eg: Paddy Ryder (Ess - 197cm / 91kg) taken at No. 7 and Mitch Clark (Bris - 198cm / 91kg) taken at No. 9 in the same draft. Both Josh and Paddy played 9 games last year, Mitch - 6 games. Neither of these guys are being pushed and are being given time just like Jarryd Roughead was. We need to be patient as quality, key position players just don't grow on trees nor develop overnight.

Pros
R13 - loss by 100pts
R14 - loss by 77pts
R15 - loss by 62pts

Well, at least the margins are getting smaller.

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If JK is played in his rightful position in the forward line and people actually pass to him he might get some confidence.

How would you feel rucking against Everitt and Jolly. Everitt is an out and out star. Make no mistake.

Kennedy needs time and patience and someone to have faith in him. Not getting taken off every two seconds.

Man I can handle the senior players getting shit dumped on them but not the youngsters who have not had a chance to prove themselves.

Well Said. I reckon its worth giving Ross Young a crack. He's not so young but he's a chance at being a very good player. He at least deserves as much of a shot at it as we gave Thornton and Carrots (who were supposed to be sub-standard players if you go buy their status as rookies).

I've got a theory- pick 4 is cursed, we will never replace Sticks.

Livo,Kennedy-all psuedo Kernahan's. We should always trade pick 4, or not recruit key posy players with it.


Pro's- a week closer to bye,bye-Denis.

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PROS

1. Fish
2. Fev - for presenting all day and keeping his head. Wasn't far off a bag
3. Kade - busting his gut at the moment, I'm happy they left the captaincy with him. It's pretty sad to get a lift out of something that has been taken for granted for so many years, but these are the times in which we live.

CONS

1. No leadership on the field at all. No apparent attempt to wrest back control when it is lost. A massive indictment on the coach and senior group.
2. Per above - Heath Scotland letting Davis (I think) run into an open goal after a mark in the 2nd was as sickening as it was instructive as to the mindset of the senior players. Thank god he won't be captain of this team, even in this rotation policy. Fev deserves it before Scotland.
3. Seeing Bryce work so hard to get back on lasat week makes me think he might be pushing to keep playing, but FFS - give him a week off. It just isn't worth it.


PS - I think Kennedy will be ok. We should lock him in the gym for the summer and feed him protein shakes through a slot in the door. Get rid of Lance and give him extended time at CHF and CHF alone. Use the preseason to direct the midfielders to play the ball through him wherever possible. He's been played all over the park and hasn't been allowed to play without fear of being dropped, and we all know big blokes take longer to round out.