Let's Blame it all on SOS lol

We are still suffering from his Smart Move of bringing Injury Prone- useless players from GWS into our club.


This club's strategy has been exposed and worked out by the even Average Carlton Supporter. Every year, we look for Shortcuts because we badly need success and our Board members demand immediate success. Their demands do not change. They have no patience and no football brains. So whoever comes into the club falls into their demands.

We must Recruit mature age players who have some value in them and Hope for the best!


I have never seen a Football club in my entire life that continues to perform badly at Recruiting for 25 years and counting.

i still think it's coaching. not all list. 7 weeks ago we're 2nd on the ladder, and there's genuine belief and our bottom 6 were being touted as some of the best bottom 6 in the league.

belief and too rigid in the coaching box (ie stubbornness over the persistence pittonet and tdk can play together; bringing cerra and cottrell into a winning team; being figured out in the coaches box, and not having a plan b option or evolving with the new htb rule) is the only thing that's changed.


we are too slow, and hawks, dogs, gws have really shone the light on all that. but this list could and should be right in the thick for a gf, imo. losing tdk hurt. but should not have been the thing that took us from 2 games clear in 2nd to out of the 8.

How do you Fix it? Sack Voss and start again?

The issue with this Club is that none of the previous Coaching has worked. We have tried Old, Young and every Coach type you can think of and all have failed!

This tells you that it is more about the Culture & the way this Club is Run that guarantees you failure no matter what you do or try!

Part list part coaching part injury management.

Too easy to score against.

One-paced in the midfield and lacking skill in the midfield (even O Hollands as an outside mid doesn't really have any hurt factor and is too small).

Too reliant on the 'star factor'.....reliant on individual brilliance too often (look at how we've become average since TDK got hurt).

And still paying for Silvagni's horrific drafting of smalls/mids.

Despite all of that the window is far from closed.

Biggest holes in the list are a skillful/damaging mid and a 2nd KP defender.

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I also think we desperately need some forward pace so we can control the defensive rebound.

Excuses.
Just as an example, Hawthorns midfield isn’t fast. Their small forwards don’t have elite speed. Our 2nd best KP accountable defender is not played.
Our coaches don’t make moves and the opposition just feats on unaccountable players with lack of defensive mindset deep in our backline.
No wonder we have little respect in the AFL industry.

Let’s cut to the chase. This list is ordinary. Been saying it for a while.

It’s unbalanced. Rely too much on our best players.

Midfield is too one paced. The failure to land a good quality mid in the Dow draft has come back to haunt us.

A lack of a third marking tall to complement Curnow and McKay. Therefore, way too predictable.

Too many injury prone players that were meant to be cornerstone of our rebuild. Some are taking up too much of the salary cap.

Not enough focus on building a quality squad. Can’t believe the dearth of good players in our seconds.

Pittonet is our second ruck. Say no more.

Should have done what I did at work to stop losing valuable employees.
Forge the vaccination certificate.
It is easy enough to do with PDF writer

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i think keep voss. sack everyone else. russell is already gone (and i have some exciting news for us if the early front runner is getting the gig)

hansen, hamill absolutely have to go. new mids coach too - get someone recently retired from a good program who can bring modern game ideas into our prehistorically slow and archaic crash and bash them current set up...

throw some caution to the wind at the trade table this summer. need speed, CHB and forwards. and be prepared to lose a big piece to get that.

but keep voss and the face of the club and give the vibes that we're all about stability.

No surprise we have so many hammys.
I've never seen so many kicks and handballs land at players bootlaces. Nothing tests a hamstring more than reaching to the ground while running full pace.
We need a midfielder who can actually kick the ball further than 45m and hit a target inside 50. Sam Walsh's delivery to forwards has been abysmal. Lots to work on for the players and some creativity required by the list managers.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

If I'm TDK I'm fielding offers big time after this season.

He will be gone and we're stuck with Pitto

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I'm shocked to be sitting here

We need to have a clear out of fragile players with potential at the end of this season and recruit a bunch of athletes.

Get rid of Marchbank, Cuningham, Martin, Fantasia, S Durdin.
Offer as trade bait McGovern, Williams, C Durdin, Motlop, Pittonet, Young
Delist: Akeui, Mirkov

That’s 13 players who we wouldn’t miss and who could be easily replaced.

Owies is one we need to keep, he’s rarely injured and is reliable. He’s the type you want in your bottom six.

Edit: added Young to the potential trade list.

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/to-carlton-blues

Name Final Year Years Service* Status
Adam Cerra 2025 4 Non-Free Agent - KEEP (won't get any decent trade offers in his state, see what new S&C guy can do, he wasn't like this @Freo)
Adam Saad 2025 5 Non-Free Agent - KEEP (too old for trade value, de-list/retire next year)
Alex Cincotta 2025 3 Non-Free Agent - KEEP (not sure this data is correct, thought he'd signed +2 years?)
Alex Mirkov 2024 4 Non-Free Agent - DE-LIST
Ashton Moir 2026 3 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Billy Wilson 2025 2 Unknown - KEEP
Blake Acres 2027 5 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Brodie Kemp 2025 6 Non-Free Agent - KEEP (probably re-sign)
Caleb Marchbank 2024 8 Unrestricted Free Agent - DE-LIST
Charlie Curnow 2029 14 Unrestricted Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE
Cooper Lord 2025 2 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Corey Durdin 2026 6 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE (anything will do... I still rate him a bit but appears too fragile)
David Cuningham 2024 9 Unrestricted Free Agent - DE-LIST
Domanic Akuei 2024 3 Non-Free Agent - DE-LIST
Elijah Hollands 2026 3 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
George Hewett 2025 4 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE
Harry Lemmey 2025 3 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Harry McKay 2030 15 Unrestricted Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE
Hudson O'Keeffe 2026 4 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Jack Carroll 2024 4 Non-Free Agent - RE-SIGN
Jack Martin 2024 5 Non-Free Agent - DE-LIST
Jack Silvagni 2025 10 Unrestricted Free Agent - KEEP (but could be a de-list next year)
Jacob Weitering 2025 10 Unrestricted Free Agent - RE-SIGN
Jaxon Binns 2026 4 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Jesse Motlop 2025 4 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE
Jordan Boyd 2026 6 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Lachlan Cowan 2026 4 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Lachlan Fogarty 2026 6 Non-Free Agent - KEEP (would be open to trade but we'd get peanuts)
Lewis Young 2026 5 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE (lol)
Marc Pittonet 2027 8 Restricted Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE (lolol)
Matt Carroll 2024 1 Unknown - DE-LIST
Matt Cottrell 2027 9 Unrestricted Free Agent - KEEP
Matt Owies 2024 6 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE
Matthew Kennedy 2025 8 Unrestricted Free Agent - KEEP
Mitch McGovern 2025 7 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE (de-list next year)
Nic Newman 2025 7 Non-Free Agent - KEEP (retire next year?)
Oliver Hollands 2026 4 Non-Free Agent - KEEP
Orazio Fantasia 2025 2 Unrestricted Free Agent - KEEP (de-list next year)
Patrick Cripps 2027 14 Unrestricted Free Agent - OPEN TO MEGA TRADE (controversial but I am open to any massive pick/young talent hauls)
Rob Monahan 2025 2 Unknown - KEEP I suppose
Sam Docherty 2025 12 Unrestricted Free Agent - KEEP (retire next year?)
Sam Durdin 2024 3 Unrestricted Free Agent - DE-LIST
Sam Walsh 2026 8 Restricted Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE
Tom De Koning 2025 8 Restricted Free Agent - RE-SIGN
Zachary Williams 2026 6 Non-Free Agent - OPEN TO TRADE

Maybe do a LOB on some of those 2025s.

Matt Carroll hasn’t payed any games yet right? And this was his first year on the list? Why wouldn’t we give him a year to see what’s he’s capable of?

Because he is incapable of getting fit, which is surely one of the root causes of our malaise. No more of this shit please - no offence to young Matthew.

That’s a big statement, I’m curious to know what you base it on as I genuinely know very little about the guy.

I'm basing it on him arriving unfit, spending the entire season unfit, and probably leaving unfit!

sos's injury really cruelled us. he could clunk a mark and pop up with his random 3-4 goal games here and there.

injury prone players and a basket case high performance dept was a perfect storm too.

could we make a late run at Bailey Smith?

he probably wants geelong and be down the surfcoast and away from the bright lights ... but maybe playing in front of 80 at the G every 2nd weekend could entice him

if alls we're offering are potatoes, alls we gonna get back is chips.


hewett, cerra or walsh, or one of the princes - charles or harry.

do we go big and make a splash for a blue chip mid?

veteran defensive help for weiters is fine.


i'm starting to be concerned that the campo boys aren't going to be worth the price of admission? but i do not know much about the picks they're gonna cost us.

jeez sam mitchell did a job and a half recruiting the players he wanted and turning that ship around.