Yeah , i sure do Bondi . Thanks for the update . Grass roots football is where it starts and you have to start somewhere .

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fair comment.

it comes down more to form than how many talls in my book. if JSOS is available and training the house down that adds something to our flexibility and game day tactics i think. H is a starter, if only to work him into the good form we know is only a decent game away and his confidence will return in spades. call me an optimist (and a realist) if you like.


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Harry isn’t a bad run down tackler when oppo are running the ball out. when he is in the mood i guess. he definitely is one of the fastest over 10-20 meters on our list.


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makes sense. but disagree about too tall. just need our talls to be on the same page all day.


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wondered where Sellers had disappeared to! he’s a bit of a broken record calling Blues games though! knows too much inside knowledge i expect.


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i wouldnt expect any AFL player to learn a completely different role and set of techniques in one week.

we should pay Big Kruse to do a preseason intensive with Harry over the summer. it might take his mind off his kicking woes a bit and relax him into his 2021 season’s excellent marking and goal kicking form too!

He can be the next Danaher and Hawkins grabbing it clean from the throw in on the pocket and kicking goals round the corner for a couple of goals a game at the source. and if not kicking a goal, putting it down Cripps/Hewitts/Motlop’s throat for three more goals a a game from F50 stoppages.


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Facts are more than welcome.
With Pitto, Harry and TDK we beat 7th, 12th, 15th twice and 17th.
Without Harry we won 100% of games including beating 2 top 4 sides.
We also beat another top 4 side when he went off in the first quarter and beat the 6th placed side.
Them's also facts.

The reality is you can wrap the facts up any way you want to push your point which Syd is desperately trying to do. Personally, I understand we'll probably go with Harry, TDK and Pitto and I understand the reasoning. But from my perspective, I believe we'd be better served structurally if Harry could play as a contributing second ruck. To date, he doesn't have the want or the heart for it.
So be it and we move on with what we're provided with.

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Harry's only human. He had a shocker against GWS but maybe he was being protective of the knee in the ruck.

I've been a critic over the years but genuinely happy for him that he gets the opportunity to atone in a final.

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the best tall players don’t get shorter in the fourth quarter and they don’t shrink as the finals progress. it totally depends on opposition Key Defenders and back 6/7 chemistry as to whether they can break a GF open or not.

my favorite surprising tall forward move in a GF was Parkin starting Diesel in the forward flank/pocket as a third tall marking option in 95. the Cats we’re totally at sea with it and Diesel cashed in with goals and goal assists to Sticks all day long. don’t recall who played on him but do recall him taking grabs against a medium tall defender repeatedly which split the game open and allow more freedom for Pearce and sticks.


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i like the idea Kennedy against Sydney. their (elite) pressure game doesn’t phase him. extra marking option going forward of the centre circle.


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Cripps is our number one (brownlow medallist) stoppage player and you want him rucking half the game with three more rounds of potential finals to play in?!

ok i drank too much coffee. i’ll stop posting knee jerk reactions .


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i would pay double, but i’m a jinx on the team when i watch it live it on TV.


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Going to be cold and wet. Suits us with our contested ball game

I'd go with 2 Big rucks and Cripps Hewett Kennedy Walsh Cerra & Dow as our midfield

The question is then McKay. Unlikely to happen but in a wet contested game would you play him? Hard ball isn't exactly his strength

The Age Sept 3 2023.

Its typical of the Swans ever since Lamb tagged, verbalised and physically tormented the young Callum Mills, and lots of other Blues joined in with the tactic, and it worked because we unexpectedly won that game.

Maybe they go to Saad to stop our run from HB.

Last game at the SCG I didn't notice anything like that. Heeney went to Cripps and blanketed him.

Crippa will remember that game, just as he remembered the Steele tag against the Saints the last time they met. Next Saints game, Steele didn't get a touch in the 2nd half of the Saints game, and we won.

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Leading question there Farmer.

Rained for 5 hours before the demons game, and the G dried up pretty quick when the rain stopped. Marking the ball wasn't an issue.

I've had a bit of training reading weather maps and use it to book in film shoots, pick great ski days etc, and I agree with BoM's forecast that it is will not be raining in the evening. 1-8mm is not much rain, more look a few showers during the day. Game starts at 7.50.

How would you answer your question? Would you play him?

If its not raining just before the game, and not likely to, would you change your mind?

If Vossy selects McKay, would Vossy be wrong?

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I don't get how anyone here on TC seems to actually know why Harry McKay failed in the ruck.

Maybe he doesn't have the skill because coaches never wanted him as their ruck because he is too important to our spine. He's a marking target.

Pitto really needed to rest a knee that was in battle week in week out whilst not at 100% (the knee that is). That's what I was told.
5th spot was ours to lose, so Pitto didn't play and Vossy had a chance to experiment with Harry in the ruck. Win or lose, it didnt matter. We put the cue in the rack after Charlie won the Coleman.

Suggesting Harry didn't try or worse, lacks the want or even worse making disparaging comments like he hasn't got the heart are just pot shots.

Harry is OUR CHF. We are proud of thet. We should be if you aren't.

We need a CHF and a FF every day of the week. Wet or dry. Why let Charlie go it alone against 2 defenders? So they can take the intercept mark?

The question is whether we will play 2 rucks, the left of centre idea is whether Harry plays or not. Argue all you like. If Harry is fit he plays CHF. We all know Harry has not been trained to ruck anywhere other than the forward line, no earlier than his 4th year, 2019, to allow the No 1 ruck to sit a kick behind play.

Last game was an EXPERIMENT. It didn't work.

I know there's a long break between games and we need to discuss stuff, but its becoming a Harry McKay bashing around here. We know the pros and cons, but can those who really think Harry will be dropped this week, please say so, even if you are 50-50. I'd love to know who is fair dinkum and those who are just putting it out there for discussion.

I don't expect anyone to put their hand up believing Harry will be dropped this week.

We are going to smash the Swans this week and all join in the Blues love fest. I can't wait to get down to Melbourne for the game.

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May even be a case of one ruck as the sub if its raining.

But I expect Voss to play 2 rucks, and Harry is not one of them.

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I don't believe he failed. Watched the replay and he wasn't that bad. It was a trial in a game that didn't matter and his support was poor

It was a trial for finals where he may need to do it at times.

Personally, I think it's a role he can do if he trains for it like Joe Daniher

harry failed bcos there were countless times he didn't put his body in the way, wasn't prepared to pay the physical price to compete, and other times he stopped, hands on hips and let the play run past him.


he's main knock since coming into the league is he's a conditional player. he chooses when to put his body on the line, on his terms. and that he's soft and weak in challenges/ goes to ground to easily etc.


all fair criticism.

Nothing surer than Harry rucking the boundary throw in's in the forward fifty . Don't know which games you guys are watching coz he has performed that role many times and done very well .

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