GWS wouldn't trade Tomlinson because they refused to trade McCarthy. It had nothing to do with our pick offered not being good enough

But it's fantastic to see that Tomlinson is now playing poorly as he is clearly unhappy at GWS and will cause GWS to receive less in a trade then they would have last year. And they'll get sweet all for McCarthy.

Sometimes being stubborn and trying to prove a point back fires.

Wouldn't want someone at the club who is so unprofessional that they wouldn't give full value for a contract they signed. We've had enough of them at the club already.
If he's sulking, then that's a big no thanks from me.

Tomlinson has been in the system for 4.5 years now and is still unproven. I understand he's behind a plethora of talented talls at GWS, but I was wary offering a first pick last year, I'm even more wary now given he's not shown a lot more this season.

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@cecil_anderson

I'm not even convinced we offered a first round pick; they couldn't have possibly known pick 11 would be live.

They kept him as McCarthy and Patton insurance, and had virtually all the points they needed by the time we traded for pick 11. I'd suggest that was the point the offer broke down, not ramped up.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

My view also.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

He's also more of a tall wingman/high HF than a KPP and we've got ourselves an absolute beauty this year in Charlie Curnow, funnily enough with the pick we would've given up for Tomlinson. Would like him on the list, but he's not the saviour FF or CHF some people would be expecting.

In the 2016 draft let concentrate on landing
Battle an exciting , strong , very competitive KPF he along with a goal scoring DFA quality midfielder will go a long way to resolve our problems over the next few years.
A lot to like about this kid.

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Does DFA mean delisted free agent? If so, I'm not so keen on getting n more player that the original club considered not good enough

If we see an opportunity for another Matthew Wright I'm sure we'd all be happy to give it a go though.

Maybe he is playing poorly because he is a poor player ... I don't know ... just saying

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

I thinks you're in great danger of making too much sense........ Be careful!!!

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

I'm curious why people think Tomlinson has been poor this year. He's looked good to me when I've seen him at senior level (pre-season and season proper). And his form has been strong at reserves level.

I think he sometimes struggles for a spot because of GWS' glut of talented talls, not because he's average. Cameron is their first kpf picked. McCarthy was probably their 2nd ranked. And then Patton comes next. Partly because he's a big boy, but also because he's a no.1 pick.

And Phil Davis is their first kpd picked. And they seem to prefer Patfull and Marchbank next as flexible talls.

So it's meant that he and Stewart (who I also rate) have been competing for the 3rd tall forward position, when one of Cameron, McCarthy and Patton are unavailable. In light of that it's not surprising he hasn't always been a regular feature at senior level. He can of course also play as tall midfielder, but again he's behind an armada of skilful, talented runners.

He's slightly excess to needs at GWS. But at Carlton, he'd play every week and probably be in our best half dozen.

You're forgetting Lobb there SC, who has carved out a role for himself. This week it's Patton, Lobb and Cameron, which - on paper - is potent.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

You're right.

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... no one's ever said that to me before.


What happens now?

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Unzip jimmae

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If he was good enough he would find a spot. Once you get on a list, everyone has the same chance as anyone else.

I once had a friend tell me that his brother wasn't getting a chance at bush league because his club had "too many players". That's the same logic being used here. That's not to say don't trade for him at all but it's about time we tempered our interest in a player that we only rave about because we are still jaded by our own inability to draft quality players.

A player who is only his club's fourth or fifth chosen tall forward is not suddenly going to make us a contender.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

GWS have been stockpiling young key position talls over the last 5 years. Your argument would hold in most circumstances, but not when 2 clubs have dominated the first round of the draft over 4-5 years.

E.g. Josh Bruce couldn't get a game there. He's become a very, very promising kpf since he left.