Sorry Frank. Simple oversight. Touhy should be in and I have amended it.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

My 'beef' is your selection criteria seems to be more in-line with the regimes you have issue with, and very much in line with the journo circle-jerk.

They don't have a clue what they're talking about because they work off the chicken feed gossip trough rather than actual observation; you benefit from more minutes watching CFC players than they ever will. Use your eyes.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Changing topic a little; if DVR kicks on and becomes a classy user of the ball off half back, then I foresee us having a bit of a logjam in that position in the future. Buckley, Docherty, Yarran, Tuohy, Sheehan, Byrne. 2 maybe 3 of those guys can play in the back 6, but all have legitimate claims for being talented enough to be best 22. So who can play in other positions? Or will we just have quality players not getting a game? Will we trade one or two of these out to reshape our list? Bucks and Yarran might be able to play forward, Docherty could move into the midfield.. I'm not sure. Each of them has played their best footy across half back.

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@cecil_anderson

Wow. What "regimes" are you referring?. I am copying journalists. Is that your gripe?

I can assure you that's not the case. Actually I am not much of a media watcher at all. My comments are based on my own opinions and what I see.

I have been an advocate of major list change, going to the draft for kids for a number of years now. To be honest I have been seeing our current predicament coming for a while now as have a lot of people. I think I have been fairly vocal and consistent in that respect. As a number of people on here can attest to I go to a lot of training and Bullants matches so I am sure I use my own eyes.

I may be a lot of things but I believe it's fairly clear that I have my own opinions and are prepared to stick with them. Happy to debate list changes, players abilities, futures etc with anyone, I enjoy it, but lets at least stick to the facts.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Docherty, Yarran and Tuohy all look ready to make the graduation to midfield, with Tuohy probably being the most defensively minded of the bunch. The other two can play further up the chain of the possession without looking out of place.

Personally I think that's also where Buckley belongs, which leaves you with Sheehan and Byrne as the more stay-at-home type defenders for now. That said, Byrne shows the kind of athleticism you'd love to have running out of stoppages, so he too should transition in time.

DVR has already shown himself to be capable either end though.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I think Docherty can play midfield and do well. DVR will need time but I hope he gets a taste come years end. His kicking is what is needed. Buckley & Byrne could be fighting for the same spot. Wouldn't mid seeing Tuohy in the middle as well. Modern day "Wayne Harmes"

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Tuohy on a wing would be nice to see.

His aggression in the midfield and his kicking into the forward line.

Has the intent to run both ways, probably needs to develop a bigger tank.

Tuohy in the forward line.. hmm I wonder how he would go as that medium forward.

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Koperek.

Anyone over 26 should be traded.
This group of senior players are cooked.
Start again
Soft , insipid, disgrace and they should be all embarrassed.

That's not starting again, that's pushing the reset button on the club.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

That's how bad we are. Not only are there few good young kids coming through but we have bugger all leaders and role models to show them the way.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Our rebuild will be basically from scratch. How can you bring in top teir kids from the draft and have the current list showing them the ropes, they'll turn out the same. We can't have got the drafts that wrong. It's how theyre developed. Effort and heart is instilled and infectious, we don't have the enough players to teach the up & comers. We need to start from scratch GWS & GC style.

Surely now we can see it's time to play the kids and keep playing them. Yes, we will get beaten and sometimes badly but we need to start. The issue is the more experienced players we believe we need to keep playing aren't up to it.

I would put a line through the foot soldiers in Curnow, Ellard, Armfield & Carrazzo.

Put a line through Jones, Tutt & Dick. Just stupid decisions.

Henderson needs to go back. Not a presence up forward plus given our ball use he has no chance.

Kruezer into ruck when fit.

A defence is the start and needs to be built around/from Henderson, Jamison, Jaksch, Giles, Sheehan, Buckley, Byrne, Docherty, Yarran, DVR, Smith & Tuohy. I also believe Everitt is a running defender

Kids through the middle supported by Judd & Murphy. Not sure what to do about Gibbs. For the rest of the year we need to play Cripps, Graham, Whiley, Walsh, BB, Menzel.

Forward line we are thin. Watson, Foster are the options. Bell needs to play HF, Menzel but I want him learning on ball. Maybe Smith.

Not a lot.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

There is a saying that you become the product of your environment.
When you have everyone saying we have the worst list in the comp. They are saying we have the worst players in the comp. Everyone from the president down to the boot studder has said it to adnauseum.
I think the players now believe it and are playing accordingly

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

They leveraged the existing talent base in the league; they didn't start from scratch either.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

We will need to build methodically

Will need the right experienced players to assist with the transition

Can't make the mistake of losing too much experience ala Melbourne

Although midfield depth is number one priority, we are crying out for a good key forward

As bad as we are Menzel, Docherty, Cripps and Byrne are for me the lock ins for promising futures and give me some hope. I could tell within a couple of minutes of TV watching Byrne was a player.

I'm still not sure about Jaksch because people keep saying he is slow even though he has skills and has a good footy brain and a good frame for defence/attack

Other maybe's are DVR (highlights reel looked great but will never trust highlights again - see below), Boekhurst (some good signs but not seen enough yet) , Sheehan (ditto Boekhurst) , Casboult ( because kicking is his only hurdle FFS ) and Dick

So there are actually a decent collection of players to watch and pin some hope on as we rebuild. Which is somewhat comforting.

Depth players in the meantime - Thomas, Jamison, Rowe, Bell, Curnow (because at least he does his job), Everitt, Watson, White

Proven good players - Murphy (but not as captain), Judd, Simpson, Tuohy, Yarran, Kruezer (if he can play)

Players who need to go - Gibbs for trade bait, Ellard, Carrazzo, Warnock, Smith*, Whiley*, Graham, Johnson, Jones (no tank), Wood, Armfield

* Whiley looked completely different last night compared to his highlights reel on youtube aka Clem Smith highlights - he has no size, no height, not quick, nervous and skills were way off. Really disappointed - he'll be another Ellard, I hope I'm wrong.

All the rest haven't debuted for Carlton so we' ll have to wait and see.

Will be good to look at this post at the end of the year and see where I got it wrong/right - that will be my pleasure from supporting CFC - besides maybe attempting to get the board voted out under a facebook page petition - what a bunch of serious twats - Eddelston being the latest scourge.

I saw Touk Miller at last years national champs and am now watching him do well for GC. I still don't understand why we would pick DVR ahead of a classy midfielder who just looked made for the AFL.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

I think this is a cop out.

When the going gets tough you stand up and keep fighting.

If you get knocked down you get up again. If only to show you won't give up.

That is what this game is about, not giving up. This game is cyclic, sometimes you will be up and sometimes down but the constant should be effort and endeavour. What else is there?

No club is always at the top but the spirit should always be there, no excuses if the club is run by morons.

Judd and Simpson always give their all and they have both been getting kicked in the sack along with everyone else. These are the types we should recruit, one is a star and the other not so but they show the same fight.

We will be down for quite some time but please get rid of the pretenders and get player's with spirit.