Did management do due diligence when they made the decisions they did?

Millions of dollars involved.

Remember this is a management group which has a track record of making poor decisions - list management (contract extension for Waite), re-signing of Ratten when they did

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Looking like, after three rounds, we've made a pretty big mistake. Knee jerk, hype driven decision which has come back to bite us.

If Laidler is fit he has to get back to playing loose man in defence, and Yarran has to go back to defence once Eddie is ready.

Laidler is the major piece in our defence...instead of the opposition scoring we actually launch from defensive 50. When he floats across and marks the opposition aren't in a position to quickly set up and defend....Garlett and Betts then dominate given the extra pace.

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Gee talk about irony.

The guy needs a season and a half at the very least, give him a chance.

I think the board believed he was going to come in and just take us straight to the top 4, to be honest.
BUT:

The list isn't as good as it looks on paper it seems.
MM's game plan was based on reducing the number of turnovers and reducing the turnovers in the middle of the ground to almost nil.
You can see from the Collingwood game last week in the last qtr and then Geelong last night where the two teams chip and run, chip and run around the boundary and then centre if for the F50 entry to a forward leading or to a tall forward in a contest 10 metres out from goal.
I don't believe we have the players who can play this sirt of game plan. Apart from Scotland Yarran, Gibbs, Touhy and Henderson, we lack the footskills to actuslly keep possession. Players like Walker, Murphy, Garlett, Armfield, Simpson pass the ball at the feet of their team mate instead of into the space. Happens every week. Judd is oK when he gets space and he has the vision to change the direction of attack. Most of the rest are just bombing it to a contest. Robbo, AJ, Jamo, Bootsma, Davies don't have the foot skills to carry it off.

The reason I am highlighting this is that I don't think MM has the cattle to implement his traditional game plan. If he is to improve this group, he will have to change it to suit the skinny runners we have and the lack of true marking KPP. I think that's why we are still playing Ratts game plan with a few long kicks for good measure. The list was put together by Ratts for HIS game plan. It has the most probability of succeeding with a plan that suits the list, not by trying to change the players into something they are not.

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When you look at how the Swans have played over the last 10 years, the most impressive aspect of their play is how consistently hard they have been at the ball. Simple as that. Have never had the best talent but their consistency of effort wins them games. Probably comes down to culture and choosing the right attributes in its players to pull it off. These are fundamentals that I think we have either ignored or simply stuffed up. Ratten's tenure displayed some pretty football but was making it difficult for us to take that next step. Not enough hardness and it showed last year. Hampson is a good example of where we have not got it right. Hopefully, Mick can find the right mix of players to put us on the right track.

Some of the emotive crap written here lately is mind boggling.
Did you watch the game? We had more tackles, we won more contested footy, we won more clearances (centre square and around the ground stoppages) but we still have the same "supporters" coming out with the same baseless rants. How do the above figures indicate "pretty football" and a lack of hardness?

We played the best and most physical team of the past decade, we were up to our necks in the game until the last 5 minutes and we lacked that bit of class in the end.
How you and the other great contributors to this site (hello Michael Jezz and Springsteen) equate that to weak players is farcical.
Our effort around the ground was good. Unfortunately they were slightly more efficient in front of goal and their collective tall forwards performed better than ours. No surprise. They have some class talls and we have some willing battlers at the moment. They had 14 marks inside 50 to our 11 and in the end, they ended up with one more scoring shot.
Put the razor blades and voodoo dolls away and watch the game.

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We will be 17th on the ladder next week after 4 rounds

Mick has a hell of a lot ahead of him if you ask me

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buddy, you need to stop attacking the man. Getting tired of your "righteous" views.

We have won one final in 11 years and never been in contention for a premiership. With early draft picks and the resources at our disposal, this is even more damning. And we are still not in contention, however, I have faith in Mick that he can turn this around over the next few years.

Again you miss the point as I never mentioned we are a weak side. Simply stated that we have lacked hardness at the ball compared to teams like Sydney. This is what wins you premierships.

Also, I did watch the game last night and our tackling was substandard and we gave them too much space. Also, like to remind you that we did lose the game.

Oh and another huge problem we have is our ageing midfield group.
After many seasons of recruiting every hbfer that moved we now find ourselves with an old group of mid s.
Scotland's last I reckon. Judd carrazzo Simpson all around thirty this year and Brock soon to join that landmark.

What we do have is a number of average half back flankers and tossed away early to near early picks.
Hartlett.Austin.Russell. Grigg.Hampson.Lucas. Watson. Multiple traded early picks.
This is all management - drafting and development genius.

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As usual, I agree with your views on the game BV.
I thought it was an excellent game.
My only gripe was I wondered why we didn't swap walks and Yaz in the last q. this was after Yaz showed his reluctance to kick for goal. he seemed to have lost his nerve, and I just thought Andy could have gotten us over the line, as well as holding a few of those marks we dropped, coming in there.
(err..if I was coach that is..hehheh. )

ps. I heart Dylan Buckley. go frodo.

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I'll judge Mick on a dozen games.
But I bet he will restructure things end of season.

Our list has a weird balance.
Suppose that means it's not balanced.

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The game moves Surrey pay attention.
Geelong were supposed to fall of the cliff because they have been at the top for so long.
But they understand list management and structure. Lol
They are certainly not Carlton in how they do things.
We just don't get it!
Case in point is Watson.
What the hell was that?
How is a guy like him ever going to have a meaningful career?
When we drifted Watson we were backslapping each other everyone else was giggling.
Our midfield is now old.
Capuano is still coaching the rucks... But he has nothing to show for that job he's had for five plus years.

We are dumb.

But were expecting Mick to fix all this?

Surrey kiss flags goodbye for years.

And yes you pump up sticks stocks slips slops

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No, it was gospel our list was being impeded by one man and when he was gone the black clouds would part...

No one who claimed that can deny it, it's in black and white in many many threads....

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You give Hampson as an example of where we have not got it right yet in the time period you refer to (since 2004) Sydney have recruited two players in the likes of Lewis Roberts-Thompson and Mike Pyke and turned them into valuable players.

You are half right it's culture and the other parties player development - we have neither.

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But most of us could have told him about the list before he bailed on last years trade period. He was talking premierships. That is the scary things. He was probably believing the hype and dull thinking that laid the blame squarely on the old coach and the coach before him.

He was supposed to have all our players improving. I don't see that either. Walker is back to what he was before he did his collar bone in 2010 so he gets credit there but really I can only see players going backwards. Simpson, Casboult, Yaz, Gibbs, Murphy examples.

Fine years and six games means you are the owner of that list and the next guy inherits what you built from you

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Rubbish.
Under rat ten walker was used as a half back flanker.
Waller is now a half back flanker aerobic secondary midfielder who I'd back to the role he played in the tac.
Under ratten walker was trade bait!
Let's not rewrite history shall we ?

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MM coaching is dated and flawed.
He had plenty of time to assess our players when he was commentating and making objective observations and predictions.
He needs to adapt "game plan/structures" and empower the playing group.

These are facts, points against:
2007 - 132
2008-107
2009-93
2010-90
2011-77
2012-88
2013-114

So Synbad, what's he trying to build here with the healthiest list we've had for 30 games?

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