Seriously don't know what to think.

Playing some kids, great, but will it do them any good given how we are going.
Well Casboult is in because we don't have a ruck option - not because he is going well

bell was reasonable the couple of times i saw him in the last month. he looked afl quality v frankston
Are they drilled at reserves level to be able to stand up?

Big call for Casboult to be No.1 ruck in first game. Only plays second ruck in reserves.

Why isn't Ellard playing?

Could only imagine because McLean / Curnow have taken his role in the midfield - and it was either him or bell and you may as well give bell a go so we find out

If we lose is Ratten right to blame injuries? There still is some good talent in the side.

if we are all comfortable with the lack of application from the side out there in terms of effort and if talent gets us in the end then maybe - but i would be surprised if we didn't beat them even with what we are putting out there... looking at the dogs ins and outs i am quite content we still have a more competitive side - lack of continuity is tho a concern. Given the team that played and destroyed Collingwood

Hampson (arguably tho injured early)
Walker (massive loss)
Simpson (obviously massive loss)
Tuohy (massive loss - one of our best defenders)
Judd (massive loss - obviously)
Kreuzer (huge loss)

replaced with?

Thornton
Bower
Russell
Bell
Murphy
Casboult

That's one good player in and 6 out so 5 of our best 22 out since we beat Pies after we were already reasonably injury struck...

thats [REDACTED] for any coaching group to deal with



If we win what's the benefit.

Really conflicted.

What a 'ridiculous' comment. You just post crap on websites without thinking logically about anything. If it went horribly wrong v Collingwood Ratten would have got the chop - lets be honest. So what does he do? He brings in a first gamer McInnes and says play in the back line against the best team in the comp. He completely put the club first and continues to do so by blooding young players again this week - obviously forced but he could have played Ellard over Bell and we wouldn't have learnt anything different. He even through Duigan forward v the Pies, would have been smashed if it didn't work....

Watson has been terrible for 2 weeks now - and he still plays him and gives him a chance.

Kreuzer was BOG just about v Collingwood. Next week he after maybe 10 minutes looked completely !@#$%& and now he is out - hardly Rat's problem and what would you have had him do last week?

Henderson was cleared by the medical team - comes back and is out again? WHY? Why is he out again? He played the entire game and he is !@#$%&? Smells like a mis-managed player who is incapable of dealing with AFL loads. Every other defender, forward, KPP player plays over 90-95% game time - and Henderson breaks down. Waite breaks down. Kreuzer breaks down. Walker breaks down - a brilliant athlete... what is actually going on at Carlton???

I know we have had some bad luck aka Murphy, Carrazzo, Hampson etc... but what about those other blokes............

How you can blame injuries on Ratten is just mind-boggling.

If Russell, bower and Thornton give a crap we COULD win this game, but unfortunately I reckon they know they are out so won't even break a sweat. To rub the salt in the wound the bulldogs put in Austin, and he will be pumped....

Yes I don't want to go back to the olden days when I wanted to lose for draft picks. Ridiculous and bloody oath I want us to win. We need winning culture for the players..... For my sanity as well.

Ratten's flagrant coaching to save his skin by rushing players back when not ready is a disgrace and Kreuzer and Henderson are flowered because of it - Ratten should be ashamed of himself.

Not the case at all.

Seriously don't know what to think.

Playing some kids, great, but will it do them any good given how we are going.

Are they drilled at reserves level to be able to stand up?

Big call for Casboult to be No.1 ruck in first game. Only plays second ruck in reserves.

Why isn't Ellard playing?

If we lose is Ratten right to blame injuries? There still is some good talent in the side.

If we win what's the benefit.

Really conflicted.

Agree we shouldn't rest our hopes on building a team around Waite - but even if he isn't our 'pea per say' he is a dangerous winger, a dangerous 2nd or 3rd tall target (heck he has been bloody good as the pea he just isn't durable). He might become the best 'swingman in the comp' defence / forward.

Tanking was for PP's, 2 very early picks, not one pick a place or two higher that won't make that much difference. Won't be tanking anymore. It served it's purpose, which I was all for at the time, but it can create a losing mentality and does nothing for the culture.

Whether we have picks 4,5,6,7 or whatever isn't a big deal.

What will be the key is trades for some other early picks, use of free agency and a bloody good Pre season and development.

What part of Henderson has been suffering from Osteo pubis all year and Kruezer has been labouring with knee problems all year is crap????

And Ratten has been playing and aggravating their issues when he could have been playing Bower, Thornton and not persisting with playing Kreuzer under his silly play 3 ruckman system.

And it was Ratten's decision to delist O'hAilpin who would have been more than handy right now.

Poor list management, poor player management and poor coaching all with Ratten's Finger prints all over it.

Crap I don't think so ............ rooboy hey.????

Who on Earth is Tom Bell???????????????? is he any Good?

I havnt seen his name pop up that often in the VFL, i would have thought other players were in front of him like Dale Frazer & Co.....