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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:02 pm 
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Heard in a grab from Lucas pre-season about preparing him to take over Scotland's role. Pity he's not going better (does fancy himself a bit; needs to be harder) cos Scotland has not reached his own standard of 2011 and of course is now out.
Cheerfully insouciant about this game now, thanks to the disappointments of the recent month.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:02 pm 
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I think we're in with a shot, but not overly confident. We don't have Sherman tanks like Chappy and Hunt, but they're slow, but on the other hand it will take three players to tackle these guys effectively.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:03 pm 
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Maybe big T-rex Watto will do a mad dash from the backline and kick the match winning snagger from the centre circle. A magnificent torpedo that sails through post high and lands 14 rows back.




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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:05 pm 
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Bootsma was too light to tackle against Port.....Geelong are going to run straight through him

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:24 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Bootsma was too light to tackle against Port.....Geelong are going to run straight through him



Agreed. Very good investment for him to have got a few games in a row though. A tough side should be able to cover for one skinny kid learning the caper particularly if he's obviously got some skills and is having a decent crack at it.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:31 pm 
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A week later and we're still soft and understrenght. Unfortunately, Cats by plenty. Oh well, at least it'll keep the blow torch on us. The sooner we forget about 2012, the sooner we can start developing the kids.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:34 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Bootsma was too light to tackle against Port.....Geelong are going to run straight through him


Play him forward with Duigan and Hendo back.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:36 pm 
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Duigan is the bigger body that cant touch his toes we hurry back

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:39 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Bootsma was too light to tackle against Port.....Geelong are going to run straight through him


I actually thought Boots was one of the few players whose tackles actually stuck against Port but agree some of the Geelong bodies could actually run through him and not even notice he was there

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:20 am 
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Centenaryblue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Bootsma was too light to tackle against Port.....Geelong are going to run straight through him



Agreed. Very good investment for him to have got a few games in a row though. A tough side should be able to cover for one skinny kid learning the caper particularly if he's obviously got some skills and is having a decent crack at it.

Geelong probably felt the same way about Rioli, yet he showed more want than Rooke and two of his teammates in the 2008 Grand Final.

Josh Hunt to duck his head if he hears Bootsma's footsteps.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:23 am 
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Please knock selwood every time he ducks, I hate that #%%## #^^%#%% hole

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:47 am 
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Playing 3 Ruckmen at once is so Dump in the modern era, and its only going to make Ratten look more Dump tomorrow.

How many times have we said it on TC? Kruzer and Hampson are not Forwards. They are not full Forwards. They are both Ruckmen and Pinch forwards at best. To play both of them inside 50 tomorrow is a suicide mission because both have no second efforts and can not give a contest unless they get a clear run at the ball and mark it.

Who is going to stop their opponents tomorrow from running Freely out of their Defensive area?


NO chance unless one of them gets dropped to be the Sub


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:49 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Playing 3 Ruckmen at once is so Dump in the modern era, and its only going to make Ratten look more Dump tomorrow.

How many times have we said it on TC? Kruzer and Hampson are not Forwards. They are not full Forwards. They are both Ruckmen and Pinch forwards at best. To play both of them inside 50 tomorrow is a suicide mission because both have no second efforts and can not give a contest unless they get a clear run at the ball and mark it.

Who is going to stop their opponents tomorrow from running Freely out of their Defensive area?


NO chance unless one of them gets dropped to be the Sub


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:51 am 
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hang on, i forgot, is it dump or dumb? :donk:

just leave it as Dump so i dont get told I abused the Head Coach :grin: :grin:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:47 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Playing 3 Ruckmen at once is so Dump in the modern era, and its only going to make Ratten look more Dump tomorrow.

How many times have we said it on TC? Kruzer and Hampson are not Forwards. They are not full Forwards. They are both Ruckmen and Pinch forwards at best. To play both of them inside 50 tomorrow is a suicide mission because both have no second efforts and can not give a contest unless they get a clear run at the ball and mark it.

Who is going to stop their opponents tomorrow from running Freely out of their Defensive area?


NO chance unless one of them gets dropped to be the Sub


Ok take one of them out and replace him with....... err.... nobody because all our prospective tall forwards are injured, recovering from injury, trying to get some form in the twos or have just been dropped because they can't hack it as a forward.

THIS is the problem with having 15 players out of 38 on the injury list as we did last week. They weren't all in the best 22 but they are all in the best 38 and atm we had a list of 23 players plus a couple of elevated rookies to pick 22 from. The three 'ins' for this week reflect the dire situation we are in in the injury room. I concede that those picked have to have a fair crack at it but the reality is we have been fielding a team that should never have taken to the park all other things being equal. And it leads to more injuries as players play above their weight.

We should get thrashed tomorrow but that doesn't matter if they have a go and don't just lie down when the score starts to blow out. If they do we will be 11th on the ladder and those of you wishing for a collapse to the basement will have got what you want. It still won't result in changes at the board or coach's level but at least we will be struggling and you can all pat yourselves on the back and point out how clever you were.

The time for change is at the end of the season if at all. Not now. That would only leave us with a caretaker coach, no time to change the gameplan, the players confused. It would also leave us with a change to the board which can do what? Huff and puff and say they will make big changes overnight? Everybody knows that can't happen.

The best we can hope for in 2012 is an effort by the boys on the park, that the injured players come back for whatever is left of the season and that 2013 will be better injury-wise and we have a better mindset than currently exists. However that is achieved is of no consequence to me. I'm just a lifetime supporter who has seen us at the bottom of the ladder in two separate cycles over 60 years and don't like it when the window slams prematurely.

Tomorrow we go in with three rucks. Maybe we wouldn't if there were an option but there isn't. If we take the backs and put them forward just to drop a ruckman, we will not have the timber down back to combat their marking forwards. Even as it is, we may not.

Do your best, boys. I'll be here as usual watching in the dead of the night and hoping you acquit yourselves well.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:02 am 
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Blue Sombrero wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Playing 3 Ruckmen at once is so Dump in the modern era, and its only going to make Ratten look more Dump tomorrow.

How many times have we said it on TC? Kruzer and Hampson are not Forwards. They are not full Forwards. They are both Ruckmen and Pinch forwards at best. To play both of them inside 50 tomorrow is a suicide mission because both have no second efforts and can not give a contest unless they get a clear run at the ball and mark it.

Who is going to stop their opponents tomorrow from running Freely out of their Defensive area?


NO chance unless one of them gets dropped to be the Sub


Ok take one of them out and replace him with....... err.... nobody because all our prospective tall forwards are injured, recovering from injury, trying to get some form in the twos or have just been dropped because they can't hack it as a forward.

THIS is the problem with having 15 players out of 38 on the injury list as we did last week. They weren't all in the best 22 but they are all in the best 38 and atm we had a list of 23 players plus a couple of elevated rookies to pick 22 from. The three 'ins' for this week reflect the dire situation we are in in the injury room. I concede that those picked have to have a fair crack at it but the reality is we have been fielding a team that should never have taken to the park all other things being equal. And it leads to more injuries as players play above their weight.

We should get thrashed tomorrow but that doesn't matter if they have a go and don't just lie down when the score starts to blow out. If they do we will be 11th on the ladder and those of you wishing for a collapse to the basement will have got what you want. It still won't result in changes at the board or coach's level but at least we will be struggling and you can all pat yourselves on the back and point out how clever you were.


Agreed, and Robert walls is saying the same thing this morning. Cooler, sober heads are needed; i know it doesn't make great thread-reading material.

I'm in shock at the fall since March but thats our reality now. Maybe we can have a late run at it after some players are back, maybe they start going to the gym now and start bulking up, maybe we can get some joy at seeing other debutants like boots. But all this sniping, I told you so's, and threats to overthrow will only encourage players to play for themselves, and coaches to try and survive. Let us not waste a "good crisis".

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:24 am 
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saw the geelong in's, they must be resting players this week....

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:52 am 
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..if Hendo is fit enough to play KPD, he sure as hell is fit enough to play CHF..

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:54 am 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..if Hendo is fit enough to play KPD, he sure as hell is fit enough to play CHF..


Were are you playing Warnock, Hampson and Kruezer if Hendo is CHF?


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