3% of 2009 player payments will go into 2008's TPP...nice

http://carltonfc.com.au/News/NewsArticl ... wsId=70211

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

I can't recall seeing any news on the status of:

Bentick
Hoops
Wiggins
Bannister

Have any of these guys re-signed as yet?

I reckon of those below who's (assuming) contracts run out next year, the ones in cyan are safe and need to be signed up while the rest need a good year or they face the trade or chop list.

2009 Ryan HOULIHAN - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Cameron CLOKE - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Adam HARTLETT - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Jordan BANNISTER - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Simon WIGGINS - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Dennis ARMFIELD - assumes 2 year contract
2009 Steven BROWNE - assumes 2 year contact 2009 Andrew CARRAZZO - assumes 2 year contact
2009 Jake EDWARDS - assumes 2 year contact
2009 Richard HADLEY - assumes 2 year contract
2009 Matthew KREUZER - assumes 2 year contract
2009 Heath SCOTLAND - assumes 2 year contract
2009 Adam BENTICK - Official
2009 Paul BOWER - Official
2009 Kade SIMPSON - Official
2009 Bret THORNTON - Official
2009 Andrew WALKER - Official
2009 Setanta O'HAILPIN - Official
2009 Aaron JOSEPH - Official - 2nd year rookie contract
2009 David ELLARD - Official - 2nd year rookie contract

Cloke got a 2 year contract . ie 2010

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The following players come out of contract at the end of 2010 (there could be more if any re-sign for only one year this year);
Fisher
Betts
GIBBS
Stevens
Grigg
Austin

Gibbs is a huge priority as the GC17 vultures will be into him big time, you might say that if goes anywhere it will be to Adelaide but huge amounts of money could persuade him. Fisher is a possibility of going (if they want him) as he has family on the Gold Coast, Betts and Grigg are ones we also have to re-sign sooner rather than later. I dont think Stevens is an issue as would be too old. There are going to be some very nervous clubs, it sucks that GC17 just take these players without having to give up any draft picks. The clubs will get compensated but i think it is the following year with picks decided by a panel.

Are you sure of this? I assumed Gold Coast were given all their Draft picks that year to use for negotiation with these uncontracted players. Obviously they aren't going to be starting their season with half the list pretty much the in the 17-18 age bracket. Clubs will want compensation straight away, otherwise you waste a year of development and there is that gaping hole (ie. Buddy heading for the Gold Coast) which hangs around for the entire season.

Guy McKenna was on the radio a few days ago and he said that they did not have to give up any picks to use to get any uncontracted players in the first year, in other words they get all the draft picks and can get up to 16 players for nothing.

..they get first crack at offering a contract.. ..the player can refuse the contract.. ..their picks, they can use to 'trade' for players..

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The concessions that GC17 are getting is absolutely ridiculous. The AFL might as well throw in a guaranteed Top 4 position on the ladder for their first 3 years as part of the packaged deal.

Its going to be up to clubs to manage this, lock in your best players, maybe offer them a sweet trade deal so they don't approach your Top 10 i.e we'll give you a player that finished outside our Top 10 B&F for a 4th Round draft pick in return for you not signing a player in our Top 10.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

This sounds good in theory but they do NOT have to trade for any uncontracted players, they can just sign them up, (restricted to one per club). If Bryce Gibbs decides to go to the GC, then there is nothing we can do about it. A panel decides what the player is worth and some sort of compensation pick is awarded to the club, not sure which draft though as there will be stuff all picks left for anyone anyway. Scott Clayton is going to be on 3aw soon he may explain it.

I think given McKenna will be trying very hard to prove himself, he is not going to be so generous. He is going to go for the best available players he can get his hands on. His contract is not long term and there is no doubt he will be going all out to get a long term contract as he's been desperate for a head job for a very long time.

I just thank god that we bottomed out a few years back and managed to pick up the high draft picks before the GC17 concessions kick in.

What Im saying is we basically give them the option...you can try to sign Bryce Gibbs or if you sign, for arguments sakes Brad Fisher, well trade you Shaun Hampson for a 4th Round pick...which is more than generous on our behalf. We protect Gibbs by sacrificing Hampson.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I keep hearing the GC have 'access' to one un-contracted player per club.
Can anyone explain this term please?

What happens if NO ONE from a particular club eg Carlton wants to go? (Highly doubt it but just hypothetically)

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..it's just 'access'.. ..basically if say Gibbs isn't signed up before then, they get to offer him a contract first, before we get a look in.. ..Gibbs is free to accept, or refuse.. ..ideally, clubs will be extending current contracts beyond that year.. ..obviously, clubs don't generally like signing long term contracts, but GC17 is a big monkey wrench.. ..easily, very easily circumvented though.. ..just extend current contracts of players you dont wanna lose.. ..again, GC17 has access to 1 player from each club, not that they are garunteed to get 1 player.. ..just a garunteed foot in the door come contract time for that year.. ..their edge, is having an extra 1 million in their salary cap to splash around, and the fact that this year they get 12 17yr old kids (basically who they think to be the top dozen from the following draft), and then they get a truckload of kids from the following draft.. ..in all, more than half a team of young kids from the 'same batch'.. ..they'll wanna aim for a few youngish guns, and some good reliable mature bodies to mix with the kids.. ..if they're smart, they'd hold onto their picks.. ..and by doing so will help 'weaken' the draft pool for the other 16 clubs and they'll get an edge off that after a few yrs..

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If the other 16 clubs are smart, they will launch a big drive to shift the kids of Australia to soccer or basketball until the concessions are finished.

I think this is a sure-fire BS way to give them an even stronger unit faster. None of this Veale-deal type crap.

Jettison any star players who take a GC offer seriously. If they're getting a game here, then they're just chasing cash there.

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Perhaps I am too opimistic but I think that the GC team will not get many players via the uncontracted route ... based on what I have seen recently, most players stick to their club if they are getting a reasonable amount of money and opportunity and they like the club. Some cases
- when the whole thing with Thornton and the Hawks was happening - if that had been a GC scenario he would definetly have left. Reason - disklike of the coach/club and we were going no where
- Brent Prismall left Geelong for Essendon* because of opportunity - this impacted his salary

The rule that only one player per club will help those clubs that are a shambles ie Richmond where the exposure could have been worse. In general players outside of your top 10 are at risk not your best players.

I would say players like Hampson (ok a bit obvious) Bentick and Fisher are the likely types to leave. The advantage the blues have is that we are likely to be a top 4 team over this period so players will be motivated to stay.

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Richard Hadley is contracted till 2010 according to this article.



http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews ... tml?page=2

2009 Sam JACOBS - Official
2009 Jeff GARLETT – Official
2009 Luke STANTON – Official
2009 Greg BENTLEY – Official
2009 Darren PFEIFFER – Official
2009 Lachlan HILL – Official
2009 Aaron JOSEPH - Official
2009 David ELLARD - Official
2009 Ryan HOULIHAN - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Cameron CLOKE - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Adam HARTLETT - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Jordan BANNISTER - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Simon WIGGINS - assumes 1 year contract
2009 Andrew CARRAZZO - assumes 2 year contact
2009 Jake EDWARDS - assumes 2 year contact
2009 Heath SCOTLAND - assumes 2 year contract
2009 Adam BENTICK - Official
2009 Setanta O'HAILPIN - Official
2009 Matthew KREUZER - Official
2009 Dennis ARMFIELD - Official
2009 Steven BROWNE - Official
2009 Paul BOWER - Official
2009 Kade SIMPSON - Official
2009 Andrew WALKER – Official
2009 Bret THORNTON - Official

2010 Chris YARRAN – Official
2010 Mitch ROBINSON – Official
2010 Rhys O’KEEFFE – Official
2010 Caleb TILLER – Official
2010 Chris JOHNSON – Official
2010 Brad FISHER - Official
2010 Eddie BETTS - Official
2010 Bryce GIBBS - Official
2010 Nick STEVENS - Official
2010 Shaun GRIGG - Official
2010 Mark AUSTIN - Official
2010 Joe ANDERSON - Official
2010 Richard HADLEY - Official
2010 Jordan RUSSELL – Official

2011 Jarrad WAITE - Official
2011 Sean HAMPSON - Official
2011 Michael JAMISON - Official
2011 Brendon FEVOLA - Official
2011 Marc MURPHY – Official

2012 Robbie WARNOCK – Official

2013 Chris JUDD - Official

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