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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:25 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.


Nothing too complex about football, it isn't rocket science.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:30 pm 
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Rowe should have gone directly into the ruck when Kruezer went down.
He was useless back and we had cover for him with Jones, Marchbank and SOJ. We waited until the last for that move. Not good enough from our coaches.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:51 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
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Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

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The fact all these players are recommitting to the Club tells you all you need to know about what the players themselves really think of Bolts and how much they’ve bought into his plan.
End of arguement.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:57 pm 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
2019
Win one of the first 3 games
Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

Fail to meet any its on your bike back to Tassie

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The fact all these players are recommitting to the Club tells you all you need to know about what the players themselves really think of Bolts and how much they’ve bought into his plan.
End of arguement.


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And I'd like to add to this and say, were you all happy with how the team was progressing last year? And if so, what has changed since then? Here's a clue.....it's not the coaching!

Bing Bing Bing....that's right.....injuries and no Gibbs (who most of you kept saying how crap he was for us).


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:03 am 
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And no Neil Craig

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:14 am 
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Simple question - If Bolts walked out of the club tomorrow, would any club offer him the position of head coach?


Doubt it. We've on 2 from our last 26 games. That's putrid! Personal might be young but even for injuries it's alot better than that.


It's not... our list is putrid.

Go through every player on the list

And it's severely unbalanced


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:40 am 
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ColourMan wrote:
jim wrote:
The Duke wrote:
Simple question - If Bolts walked out of the club tomorrow, would any club offer him the position of head coach?


Doubt it. We've on 2 from our last 26 games. That's putrid! Personal might be young but even for injuries it's alot better than that.


It's not... our list is putrid.

Go through every player on the list

And it's severely unbalanced
No clue!

2 wins in 26 games. No structure, no clue out there, poor game plan, players going backwards. That's coaching. It's not anything else. There's alot of good young players on that list. Drafting has been good. Development poor. No list should win 2 from 26.

Bolton is not the man for job. Those who accept 2 win from 26 embrace mediocity.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:56 am 
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Effes wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
With regards to the injuries the way I look at it is like this.
It's your birthday and the family has bought you the delicious looking cake.
You know that this cake is going to be the best tasting cake out.
However someone has put 44 candles on it and you have to blow these candles out.
But they are those trick candles and everytime you blow one out anothet re ignites.
You really want this cake but you simply cannot blow these candles out.
Bit like our playing group every time you think someone will return you are going to get your cake.
However whilst you are putting all your efforts to blowing out these candles.
There is a raging bushfire coming down the valley and its about to burn the whole housr down cake and all

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Brilliant! :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:07 am 
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Brently8 wrote:
Effes wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
With regards to the injuries the way I look at it is like this.
It's your birthday and the family has bought you the delicious looking cake.
You know that this cake is going to be the best tasting cake out.
However someone has put 44 candles on it and you have to blow these candles out.
But they are those trick candles and everytime you blow one out anothet re ignites.
You really want this cake but you simply cannot blow these candles out.
Bit like our playing group every time you think someone will return you are going to get your cake.
However whilst you are putting all your efforts to blowing out these candles.
There is a raging bushfire coming down the valley and its about to burn the whole housr down cake and all

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Brilliant! :lol:
It was probably one of the best post Ive seen
Loved it and haven't stopped laughing

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:42 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
McKay was always going to play relieving ruck. Thats why he was selected. :?



it makes sense ... only that there was an interview earlier in the week about why mcKay missed the brisbane game and that was because the powers that be declared they don't want him in the ruck, just as a forward.

so, again ... the club is all over the place, huh?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:53 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
2019
Win one of the first 3 games
Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

Fail to meet any its on your bike back to Tassie

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The fact all these players are recommitting to the Club tells you all you need to know about what the players themselves really think of Bolts and how much they’ve bought into his plan.
End of arguement.


:clap:

And I'd like to add to this and say, were you all happy with how the team was progressing last year? And if so, what has changed since then? Here's a clue.....it's not the coaching!

Bing Bing Bing....that's right.....injuries and no Gibbs (who most of you kept saying how crap he was for us).



haha. shit. Cripps needs to recommit before you start singing that song.

... last year the players were visibly buying into what bolton was selling. they were playing tough and hard at the ball and they never rolled over for any game outside the port game in adelaide.

this year, they've stopped running, stopped tackling and basically stopped playing with any kind of effort. players - stud draft picks - are regressing right before our eyes. but you know it's there and that they can all play. they turned up against Essendon*, pies and sydney. proving that injuries don't effect or reflect on effort.

right now; we are playing with less effort and less commitment than at any stage under malthouse. if the coach isn't getting the effort out of players each and every week as a minimum baseline criteria ... the coach hasta go.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:07 am 
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Dominator_7 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
2019
Win one of the first 3 games
Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

Fail to meet any its on your bike back to Tassie

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The fact all these players are recommitting to the Club tells you all you need to know about what the players themselves really think of Bolts and how much they’ve bought into his plan.
End of arguement.
I find it amusing that sometimes we get excited about players resigning.
I have done it myself.
But when you stand back and think of it these players are running out and getting belted by 10 goals by teams at the bottom.
Why would you want to keep them

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:11 am 
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Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
McKay was always going to play relieving ruck. Thats why he was selected. :?



it makes sense ... only that there was an interview earlier in the week about why mcKay missed the brisbane game and that was because the powers that be declared they don't want him in the ruck, just as a forward.

so, again ... the club is all over the place, huh?


I'm sure they don't want Jed Lamb and Matt Shaw playing defence either but circumstances force changes we'd rather not see.
McKay was selected as a forward/second ruck. I didn't read your posts on Thursday slagging the coaches for "inexplicably" putting McKay in the ruck then.

Yet after we lose, it's an opportunity to slag the coaches. With no validity whatsoever.
If you didn't know McKay was selected as receiving ruckman, you should question your own understanding of the game, not Boltons.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:12 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
2019
Win one of the first 3 games
Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

Fail to meet any its on your bike back to Tassie

Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk


The fact all these players are recommitting to the Club tells you all you need to know about what the players themselves really think of Bolts and how much they’ve bought into his plan.
End of arguement.
I find it amusing that sometimes we get excited about players resigning.
I have done it myself.
But when you stand back and think of it these players are running out and getting belted by 10 goals by teams at the bottom.
Why would you want to keep them

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Not me, Tim Webster. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:23 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Dominator_7 wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
The club is going to stick it's head up its arse when it comes to Bolton.
Unless MLG gets ousted Bolton will stay.
What they should do is set him trigger points for his departure.
Suggest the following
2019
Win one of the first 3 games
Have 4 wins by round 11
Have 8 wins for the season

Fail to meet any its on your bike back to Tassie

Sent from my SM-G900I using Tapatalk


The fact all these players are recommitting to the Club tells you all you need to know about what the players themselves really think of Bolts and how much they’ve bought into his plan.
End of arguement.
I find it amusing that sometimes we get excited about players resigning.
I have done it myself.
But when you stand back and think of it these players are running out and getting belted by 10 goals by teams at the bottom.
Why would you want to keep them

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Not me, Tim Webster. :wink:
I've gone from John Hewson to Tim Webster in a matter of hours. :-)
SB man of multiple personalities

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:29 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Braithy wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
McKay was always going to play relieving ruck. Thats why he was selected. :?



it makes sense ... only that there was an interview earlier in the week about why mcKay missed the brisbane game and that was because the powers that be declared they don't want him in the ruck, just as a forward.

so, again ... the club is all over the place, huh?


I'm sure they don't want Jed Lamb and Matt Shaw playing defence either but circumstances force changes we'd rather not see.
McKay was selected as a forward/second ruck. I didn't read your posts on Thursday slagging the coaches for "inexplicably" putting McKay in the ruck then.

Yet after we lose, it's an opportunity to slag the coaches. With no validity whatsoever.
If you didn't know McKay was selected as receiving ruckman, you should question your own understanding of the game, not Boltons.



*groan

bolton and the vet both said after the brisbane game, they don't want mcKay playing 2nd ruck which is why he never got a start up there ... based on that logic; on friday night the plan must have been to play kruezer there the whole game??

rowe and jones are expendable spuds. why weren't they in the ruck sooner?

and that's fine and all if you want come up with (wrong) excuses about McKay in the ruck on friday night. but please explain and defend bolton's decision to run our two greatest assets in the ruck before mcKay was put there (charles & Patrick)?


serious question; do you work at the club? you sound like the iraqi minister of defence. trying to bullshit us that things aren't so bad and the club is in pretty good shape, we just need Doc back and all will be apples.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:40 am 
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No I don't work at the club. In fact, I've been as critical of them in the past as anyone.
There's plenty of things to be critical of the club for. Fabricating them so you can grandstand isn't required.

For years, unless we play 2 ruckmen, the tall forward relieves in the ruck. McKay has filled that role previously and will again. The moment he was chosen as a tall forward at selection, he was always going to play receiving ruck role.
3 days later, you slag the club for "inexplicably" putting him in the ruck and risking his ACL. :lol:

Was it really "inexplicable" or are you just coming up with bullshit to kick the coaches? Let's be honest, all facts point to the latter.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:44 am 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
I've gone from John Hewson to Tim Webster in a matter of hours. :-)
SB man of multiple personalities

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:48 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:

Was it really "inexplicable" or are you just coming up with bullshit to kick the coaches? Let's be honest, all facts point to the latter.



*sigh

it was 100% inexplicable in light of the vet and bolton saying just this week they don't want to risk Harry in the ruck due to his limited preseason. they only want him playing forward.


what about that, is so hard for you to comprehend?


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For years, unless we play 2 ruckmen, the tall forward relieves in the ruck


maybe we took the richmond approach and went into the game with one ruck who was expected (and can) play the entire game in the middle?

i mean since the headcoach said just this week he doesn't want to risk Harry in the ruck.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:50 am 
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and my point about it being inexplicable was the use of charlie and cripps there as well.

but you conveniently cherry pick that info out of my original post. but carry on ...


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