Sticks should go stand in the corner and count to 100 while the decisions are made....slash and burn baby!

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Don't doubt it for a second. Sticks needs to stay away from these discussions. Not his job. And if it's McKay who has the problem - he should piss off and we can get a real list manager in to do the job. Tired of the amateurs. Getting harder to support the club. I wouldn't invest in Carlton if it were a public company. Needless to say, if my head ever talks to my heart and finds out what's really going on at that place - i'll have to find a new vice.

MM inherited this list and its poor. He needs to be able to build the one he wants. Simple.

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We should also be doing our due diligence on a whole range of players who aren't getting regular games at other clubs but might fulfill a need.

Those that immediately spring to mind:

- Sam Shaw (Adelaide) - defender
- Luke Thompson (Adelaide) - defender
- Liam Anthony (North) - hard mid
- Levi Greenwood (North) - hard mid
- Jackson Paine (Collingwood) - marking forward
- Tom Bugg (GWS) - defender

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Our list management over the past five years (at least) is like a Russian nesting doll of poor decision-making

Sticks and Andy McKay would be well advised to shut the [REDACTED] up and let Mick get to work.

1 MAN alone should never be in complete control of list management.
Andy Mac should have plenty of say. If tricky Mick doesn't like it, bad luck!
People here complain, bitch and moan that this is/was Ratten's list but now want to give MM total control.
More importantly previous statements about Ratten being totally in control of this list are WRONG.
Grow up people the world does not revolve around 1 person.
List management should be discussed by a group of people and therefore correct, responsible decisions are made.

Agreed. Sticks's job is to stand in front of the camera at the end of it all and tell the media "'insert name here' was a great player for the club, and we wish them well at their new club", irrespective of how accurate or otherwise those statements are.

Sticks had the chance to grill Mick on his list management and recruitment philosophies before offering him a contract. If he wasnt comfortable with what Mick might do then he should never have appointed him. Trying to micromanage list management decisions now just shows he's an amateur at his actual job.

Are they delisted yet?

Will be like working for a bank. They clear out 20% of a floor and then productivity goes through the roof as everyone wants to survive the next wave of redundancies.

Well maybe not as ruthless as a hedgefund. George Soros gets rid of the bottom half of his traders each year.

Why do you read stuff that Luke Darcy writes? You're better off reading the back of a corn flakes packet.

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Problem is Andy Mac isn't a list managers a$$hole. He's proved it.

I disagree. I think he is.

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Couldn't have put it better.

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Why would anyone listen to Luke Darcy. I can't believe he has a job on TV or Radio. No knowledge and no personality

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Sticks shouldnt have a say

You don't like the way he goes about it?

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You can’t have one person running everything that’s what apparently went wrong last time.
If you want to get the best out of your recruiting process you need a informed and rounded committee.
Mckay, Malthouse, Rogers and his team should all have a say in the drafting of a certain player and type of player needed.
I would even include the match committee in the process, they are the ones responsible for the crucial match day selections. This to me is far more drawn out and can only lessen bad decisions made by one persons narrow view point.

You cant have one coach making all decisions. He needs to be made accountable. Or else they will recruit all their friends and explayers. He is anyway, but I hope everyone else is happy with the appointments we have or are likely to make.

Its like Dennis Pagan, getting Martin just to get him his milestone. Ridiculous. I mean do you want the whole of collingwood coming over. If we get Didak, I will just crack it and find it difficult watching the club next year.

We are not a charity case.

It should be a group discussion, I would have thought with McKay and also recruiters and coaches.

Not sure why Sticks is involved ?

Moshe25 I Always appreciate your work.

I LOVE IT!

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