Gov's contract runs til end of 2025.

I'd consider Haynes a downgrade on Gov overall. Better at contested marking but Gov's ability to take on the high risk kick out of D50 is more valuable IMO.

But more likely Haynes is the experienced replacement for Marchy & S Durdin.

yeah interesting ... hard to see why we'd be keen on haynes then. cheap upgrade over marchbank, i guess, for less money.

I think Haynes would be a perfect replacement for 193cm Marchbank. Mobile tall and good mark. 3rd Tall.
Just can't rely on Marchbank's body anymore. One week on one weenk off doesnt help with continuity.
We know Gov doesn't play 23 H&A games, ever.

S.Durdin is more KPF around 200cm.

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If your mate was there, and knows what happened, then that's the best version I've heard about the 'stoush'. I just find it hard to believe the players have any room in their make up for hate and not loving their team mates. It happened a long time ago. We have won 9 games in a row since then., plus Finals victories. Immature to hold gripes imo. They are all one unit when they go out to war. Thanks for sharing.

I think Young will come good again. Young in the ruck got the Doggies to the 2016 Finals. People forget that. Doggies won the flag that year.

I have no doubt SOS would have played this year if fit. Its clear TDK stepped up this year, but still learning the ruck caper. He needed a chop out form someone other than Cripps, Harry and Kennedy. I too would have selected SOS this year. Pitto missed the start of the season, and SOS may have entrenched himself as the only 3rd tall on our list, other than TDK. I do prefer TDK as my 1st ruck and as my 3rd tall. We only have one TDK.

I'm the same as you on the small forwards. I think Motlop will come good, but not for a number of years. Think Eddie Betts. He was great from the get go, but it wasn't till he went to Crows at the age of 27 that he really blossomed. Motlop isn't as good as Betts was at the same age. Motlop turned 21yo this year.

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Both Marchy and Haynes would be cheap.
They are not KPDs, and their bodies are towards the end of their shelf life.

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Braithy, to hark back to your earlier post, what makes.you think owies is definitely going? Id hate to lose him, he is our third best goal kicker this year

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Good question bender.

If Carlton were worried about losing Owies, you'd think they would've signed him up already.

Not sure Owies manager is going to wait for Carlton to make a decision either way, must be looking at options.

If true, Pies keen on him for starters. He'd be a target for any team looking for a goal kicking small.

No doubt Austin is cooking up something. I hope its a pleasant surprise.

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Lord looked good again today in the VFL.

I hope we sign up McMahon. He kicked 7 goals today, and could've easily been 8.
198cm and looks about 90kg. He's a mobile KPF.

I haven't seen him in the ruck, and looks a bit light to me for the ruck.
If he could ruck.....he'd be worth his weight in Gold.

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Agree . We gave away Camminiti who is now starting to blossom . Don't make the same mistake with McMahon .

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McMahon should at least be rookie listed.
We draft Lemmey who looks Miles off it yet this bloke is killing it.

Young was drafted in 2016.

Maybe you're thinking of 2019: played r22 & 23, both wins as Footscray made it into the 8 (lost EF)

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/players ... Young.html

He played r21-23 in 2017, all losses. Also r22-23 in 2021.

just heard the club and owies are a long way apart, and unless owies takes a bit of a bath, we won't contract him up. leads me to believe (maybe stupidly) that we're going to seek a small/medium forward this summer as an upgrade over owies. truth is other clubs will offer owies more than us.

so ... everyone knows durdin and motlop aren't enough, zac maybe, but we don't trust his body and moir has not looked close to afl level. logic says martin is gone too.

you'd think a forward is just as high as a key defender on the summer wishlist.

Thanks GE

Funny, I only heard what I posted in the last week... was it King? Dunno?

Must have been what you recall GE: 2019.

He played in the ruck end of season to help them get into Finals.

2019, 5 years ago, sounds right.

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Lets get our spine sorted first. Please.

The spine is much more important than a small forward role imo.

One position can be quiet as a graveyard (small forward), wheras the other is the gateway to scoring (CHB), let alone having to mind the oppositions most dangerous forward.

My view is we've spent enough time and high picks on small forward role, only for it to be unfinished business. We will not be getting rid of Motlop and Durdin, and wont be delisting Fogarty Fantasia, or Williams any time soon. There's 5 smalls on our list. We only need to fill 2 small spots max in the 23, and if 2025 is the last year for Fantasia and williams we still have 3 smalls to chooses from, and with SOS returning to fill the glaring gap of the 3rd tall/ruck position, I can't see more than 2 smalls selected each week.

A bit too early to be writing off 19yo Moir, or 20yo Monohan. They will continue developing imo.

We need a CHB. Badly.

We need an upgrade on SOS for a Fwd-Ruck incase he breaks down too. The small forward role is another area we could do with an upgrade, but 3rd in line for me....unless Hill or Jones want to come to Carlton.

As for medium sized forwards, I think we will see the emd of Cuningham and Martin but will have Elijah, and Docherty returning.

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If it's just about the money he can go. I thought I read the players made a pact to take pay cuts to stay together

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that's part of the problem. the "core" players did. who's in that core, and who's not. maybe owies isn't.

Do we even have Management at the Club?


We have been the most injured club out of all 18 teams for the last 5 years combined. Every year, the same players break down and we keep rewarding them with new contracts and S*** all Management.


Where do I start? I let someone else dish out the names that needs to go!

ahh this frustrates me. most of our deplorable team defense starts in our forward line and our ability to chase and tackle and lock the ball in for repeat entries.

a premier small forward changes that. and we need pace like nothing else. we have to somehow change our team profile from the slowest team in the comp, into at least a mid-table team if want to entertain flag talks while cripps is still our captain.

we need a chb like nothing else too. and two or three who can play wing and thru the guts with a turn of pace and break some lines.


walsh, hewett, kennedy, cripps, acres, ollie & lij and cerra are just too slow.

tdk
charlie or harry
weiters
cripps
elijah
saad
cowan
kemp
newman


needs - an A grade CHB, and A grade small forward and some speed in the middle/ wings.

and outside of that, i'd listen to offers.

i'd love to see more players with an edge and some mongrel. so sick of our private school profile we seem to keep drafting.

we're way too nice and polite